The bible is not making it up, it has been there long before you were born, or science was born. It does not at all at all at all have to comply with natural law, unless that law can be proved to apply in the future. (or past) It can't as we have seen on this board. Now, stop expecting us to believe that the entire universe, sun, and earth, and trillions of galaxies once fit in your rectum. Really. How natural is that??
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As opposed to the completely rational belief that some sadistic sky fairy poofed everything into existence in a few days?
At least spiritdad agrees that the bible and reality are completely at odds with each other.
"The bible is not making it up, it has been there long before you were born, or science was born."
So you are saying your bible is really out of date then, yes?
So if something is older than me, it must be true? What a weird thing to say... almost as if bronze-age men could not lie and did not have fertile imaginations. As for your reference to the Big Bang with the word "rectum" in the same sentence... well, I think you get the idea.
The Greek described the concept of logos which is the origin of western science before Christ's birth. Heraclitus mentioned the term in about 500 BC.
Early versions of the bible, assimilating older texts, were written in the second century AD.
... or are you saying that the NT is irrelevant for your belief?
Ah, spiritdad... the same person as Dad from ChristianForums.com (know as Foru.ms now)
The crap about a physical only universe is the giveaway...
"Now, stop expecting us to believe that the entire universe, sun, and earth, and trillions of galaxies once fit in your rectum. Really. How natural is that??"
Having seen what fundies routinely manage to pull out of their rectums, the idea gets more believable by the day!
The bible is the only thing I was allowed to learn. Otherwise, I am abysmally ignorant, and proud of it. Stop telling me science shit, it scares me.
Following your logic, you shouldn't be using this computer. Or we should submit to the Devas or the Gilgamesh epic. After all, they were much older than the Bible. Anyway, natural law exists since ever. That it was formulated long after, it's another matter.
Not_You wrote:
"So, when was science born? Really, I'd like to celebrate its birthday!
1620. That's when Sir Francis Bacon wrote his Novum Organum .
"The bible is not making it up..."
I happen to know that the bible is the biggest bullshitter around, even worse than hovind. Once that bible opens its mouth, the bullshit really flows. I tried getting the bible drunk once, and it started jabbering about spoons and underpants gnomes.
I'd explain it, but it'd take forever and you wouldn't give a shit anyway.
Can we stuff the universe up YOUR rectum?
It does not at all at all at all have to comply with natural law
Do you have a stuttering speech candence or something?
Now, stop expecting us to believe that the entire universe, sun, and earth, and trillions of galaxies once fit in your rectum.
It can't fit into mine, but it might be able to fit into yours, what with it being all stretched from pulling these crazy arguements out of it...
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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