It sounds to me like you are dissapointed in how God has made and arranged things and you feel you could do better. Perhaps you could make a perfect world where no one gets sick and no one dies. No one would steal lie or get angry etc. You would have a perfect world. You would then have done a much better job than what God has done right?
Perhaps the child who experiences these physical shortcomings is blessed in other ways that are not obvious to you. Mentally retarded people often bless those around them in many wonderful ways. I have found in my life that I often don't accurately perceive situations and they appear to be one thing but then I find out they were actually something else. I think you may be seeing the limbs missing as the all in all when in fact there are other issues at work you are not seeing. Often times our sufferings humble us in a way that draws us closer to God. I hope you too will experience that closeness and love with God one day soon.
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Or, you know, there's no God to arrange things like that. See how simple that is, as an explanation? No tying yourself into moral knots required.
I hate to break it to you, dude, but mankind has arranged things better than your God supposedly did. The biblical approach to international politics is generally "beat the shit out of anyone who thinks or looks different", whereas man, independently of religious thought, has constructed international organisations with cooperative peace and mutual understanding as their primary objectives. The biblical approach to disease is generally "shut them outside the village so you don't have to look at them during prayer", whereas rational human beings, independently of scripture, have developed medical science immensely, not to mention state supported healthcare. The biblical approach to the scientific method and technology is effectively non-existent and the bulk of people in pre-rational societies often lived barely above subsistence level at the best of times, whereas today, in terms of material goods, we have never had it so good. Need I continue?
My sister, an evangelical Christian, has a Downs syndrome son. While we all love him and do the best we can for him, I can assure you Downs syndrome is not a blessing.
Often times our sufferings humble us in a way that draws us closer to God.
So how come God humbles some of us and not others? How does being born with one eye in the middle of your head and the center of your brain missing and dying within a few days of birth draw you closer to God?
Mentally retarded people often bless those around them in many wonderful ways.
Tell that to the mother of a child born with anencephalia (who will probably have nightmares for the rest of her life just looking at the child for the few minutes or hours that it lives). Medical description:
PATHOGENESIS: both cerebral hemispheres and thus the spinal cord pyramidal tracts are absent; absence of the cerebellum; residue of the brainstem usually present; hypoplastic pituitary gland; the rudimentary brain remaining consists of portions of connective tissue, vessels, and neuroglia.
MANAGEMENT: No Treatment. Most infants are stillborn or die within several days of birth. Organ donation is controversial.
If manufacturers built their products with the same quality control as the Biblical God's in creating the earth and especially humans, they would be sued out of existence inside a week. To supposedly be a perfect being, he sure did a piss poor job of creating a quality product.
Yeah, I so often hear people praying:
"Thank you god for making me a double amputee."
"Thank you god for giving me cancer, it feels so wonderful as it gnaws away my bones."
"Thanks for the arthritis, rheumatism, broken hip... I'm truly blessed."
"Thanks for making me a fuckwit and unable to do anything better than babble on CARM."
Okay, I've heard the last one a lot, but the others.... no.
It sounds to me like you are dissapointed in how God has made and arranged things and you feel you could do better. Perhaps you could make a perfect world where no one gets sick and no one dies. No one would steal lie or get angry etc. You would have a perfect world. You would then have done a much better job than what God has done right?
Wow, this is the most extreme case of the "I'd like to see you do better" fallacy I've ever seen. Let's go over this one more time. Your god claims to be omnipotent, omni-benevolent, omniscient, and incapable of error. In fact, you folks frequently exempt him even from the bounds of logic. In order to back up these claims, he needs to have created a world in which omni-benevolence is borne out by evidence.
We do not inhabit such a world.
A perfect god such as the one you claim would not create humanity of a sort that needs to be "humbled" to become "close" to him. (If mankind can act against god's will... he isn't omnipotent, you see? That's what the word means.)
Now, I do not claim the universal ultimate properties ascribed to God. Therefore, I do not need to create a perfect universe to back up those claims. Meanwhile, just as I don't need to be a chef to recognize that my dinner is burned, I don't need to be myself omnipotent to see that the world is imperfect.
Perhaps you could make a perfect world where no one gets sick and no one dies.
Well, if God had made that perfect world, evolution would be disproved. What is that? Oh, I see, you're stuck between upping God and conceding to evolution. Well, have fun with that choice.
So, what exactly are the blessings born out of my having OCD (among other psychological problems) and a damaged back? 'cause without these problems I'd be able to make myself useful in a measurable manner, working as a librarian.
If I had the powers that your supposed god does, then fuck yes I could make a better world. Your god is supposedly omnipotent, and eternal, so making a perfect world with no suffering would take an infinitely small fraction of his power and time. If your god existed, he would the most evil creature in the universe for *not* doing it.
“Perhaps the child who experiences these physical shortcomings is blessed in other ways that are not obvious to you.”
Not even going to read you trying to justify this claim. But think on this. Your god is presented to the rest of us as omnibenevolent. Infinite mercy, right?
If he uses SUFFERING to achieve any of his ends, then there’s something he values greater than mercy, and is not infinitely merciful.
These blessing don’t have to be obvious, the suffering is, and that’s the entire problem of evil.
Confused?
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