" there are plenty of reasons to believe in God demosntrated within the context of the Bible.”
Such as? I mean, are you talking about miracles that other people saw? There’s a reason you can’t use hearsay in court.
"Also why do we need a reason to have a reason to believe in self evident truths?”
if Biblegod is a self-evident truth, where does Zeus come from? There are a number of vastly different gods offered as candidates to explain the workings of the universe. Greek gods are humans writ large, some Babylonian gods aren’t even slightly human, lots of distributed divine responsibilities, but you say it’s OBVIOUS that there’s just the one, with all responsibility, a huge gulf between us and OMNISCIENT OMNIPOTENT OMNIBENEVOLENT God, but we’re made in God’s image…
"Thats the point. They're self evidently true.”
You’ve bought the rationalizations without understanding the criticisms. “I’m Convinced” =/= “Self Evident.”
"We don't need a reason to believe in them.”
No, if they WERE self-evident, that would BE the reason we b’lieved in them.
But, hell, there are people that wonder if the world is real, or if we’re in teh matrix. So, no, ‘self-evidence’ is not the ultimate defense of an idea.
"But, thats not to say, we don't HAVE reasons to believe in them. This is where your confusion is coming in I believe”
I keep asking for evidence for any gods.
Any reason to believe in any of the gods men worship.
I don’t need a reason to believe the evidence if it’s actually evidence.