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(42% of Americans say Islam is not more violent than other faiths)
I believe the Survey is rigged
Because when we watch TV we are not hearing on a daily basis:
Today radical Zionists blew up a child care.
Conservative Christians kill 50 on Army base
Hare Krishnas scalped elderly in nursing home
Buddhists car bombed local schools

What Religion does all these things and is always in the news????????? Put on your thinking caps the answer is a hard one to figure
The religion is ISLAM the religion of piece(s)

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old comment by Swede

Islam is no more violent than other faiths in an of itself.
People are being violent and hateful, regardless of their faith. If you want to, you can turn your faith around to mean what you want it to mean, and let you hate and kill the ones you want to hate and kill.

When we listen to the news, we hear about Iraqi civilians killed by Western troups. We hear that one gang of soccer supporters has attacked another gang of soccer supporters. We hear that France has thrown out many Romanis. We hear that BP has still not fixed the leak in the Gulf of Mexico.
A person's religion is seldom mentioned in the news, at least over here in Europe.

"Peace" is not spelled like "piece", stupid. Where's YOUR thinking cap?

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@Classic:

The thing is, that after the Muslims migrated to Medina because Mecca was persecuting them severely, the Meccans first forbade any caravon or convoy to deliver food and supplies to Medina and then they attacked Medina itself with thousands of men while the muslims were in the hundreds, with the hopes of completely destroying Islam and basically committing genocide. These Rapture Retards however cannot stand that the 100s or so Muslims stood against the 1000s of Meccans and actually won. After that, becuase of the caravans nand convoys not being allowed to come to medina by the Meccans, the Muslims in Medina, who were put in charge by the Chrsitians and Jews of that city as well, had to get the food and supplies from somewhere for its citizens. So, they gave the Meccans a taste of their own medicine by attacking their caravans and convoys and taking those food and supplies.

The Christian right wing retards however have woven a completely different story around this. They wanted to see the Muslims being wiped out insteaad of defending themselves.

old comment by Wehpudicabok

Christian terrorists have been taking innocent lives within the United States for ages. People of all faiths in the Middle East are used to regularly blowing each other up. And "new religious movements" have a nasty track record of violence as well (Aum Shinrikyo in Japan comes to mind). Islam is NOT alone in violence.

It's really fairly simple. It doesn't matter what the religion itself promotes--if its adherents themselves are peaceful, they can coexist with the rest of us. If they are violent, we will respond in kind--to their violence, not to their religion.

@Swede: Pretty sure waiting1 was making a pun: blowing people up, leaving them in "pieces." Just like the morbid joke "rest in pieces." But hey, maybe I'm giving 'em too much credit...

old comment by NoriMori

PART 1

(42% of Americans say Islam is not more violent than other faiths)

Why the hell are you complaining? 42% isn't even a majority. This is actually bad, it means that less than half of Americans are intelligent enough to realize that people of any religious faith can be violent, that the minority of violent Muslims does not represent the religion as a whole, and that Islam's actual teachings don't advocate any more violence than Christianity's actual teachings do.

I believe the Survey is rigged

Are you saying that there can't possibly be that many people in America that disagree with you? Could you be any more full of yourself, you piece of shit?

Besides, the survey isn't even saying that it's true that Islam is not more violent it's just saying that almost half of Americans BELIEVE that. What's so unbelieveable about that? After all, people can believe what they want to believe. Why does it amaze you more that less than half of Americans believe something that's plausible and testable (Islam is no more violent than other faiths), than that more than 3/4 of Americans believe something that's unlikely, untestable, and unobserved by anybody ever (God)? That's some screwed up reasoning skills you have there.

old comment by NoriMori

PART 2

Because when we watch TV we are not hearing on a daily basis:
Today radical Zionists blew up a child care.
Conservative Christians kill 50 on Army base
Hare Krishnas scalped elderly in nursing home
Buddhists car bombed local schools

That's true, but I also never hear about Islamic people doing any of those things. That's partly because I don't watch the news much, but it's also partly because I live in Canada. I'm pretty sure religious violence is way more prevalent in America than in Canada (again, don't quote me), and I don't hear about stuff in America unless it's big news internationally. Like, you know, 9/11.

And you're also assuming that the news isn't biased. If you think the news is impartial, you must be the most naïve person in the developed world. No wonder you have no critical thinking skills!

Oh yeah, one of my best friends is a Muslim, and out of all my friends, she's the most mature and the least aggressive. She's never once tried to force her Islamic beliefs on anyone, by violent means or otherwise. She doesn't even talk about her religious beliefs unless it will affect us, like if she's fasting for Ramadan (which, incidentally, is ending soon...) and therefore can't come to a party. She doesn't give a crap that I have no religious belief, and she doesn't give a crap that pretty much all our other friends are either Hindu or atheist.

I have another friend who's a Muslim, although we're not super-close. She just moved here a few months ago, but she's not violent either, and she doesn't try to force her beliefs on us. She's a good person.

I love my friends. They mean a lot to me. Don't you dare lump them together with all the violent Muslims in the world, you piece of shit.

old comment by Amadaun

@Blasphemia: People learn a certain amount, and then think they know everything. For most of Muslim history, the serious scriptural punishments (hudud) went unadministered in most cases, even when those cases came before the religious arbiters.

Because the scholars who defined the actual nature of Islam for all those hundreds of years considered them too brutal under most circumstances, and commuted them to more reasonable things in consideration of repentance or (more often) didn't do anything because the ridiculously strict proof demands weren't met, and the nasty criminal case went to secular authorities.

It's only now that people not classically trained in the law have started running around trying to apply the book without its cultural history, and throwing in other personal cultural history that has nothing to do with the book (i.e., fundies) that things have gotten remarkably nasty.

The attempt to establish modern single-code law systems while still keeping the traditional blessing of religious law has generally not gone smoothly. The old compromise has been invalidated, but acceptable and functional new ones are hard to come by. Holding onto the seventh century without an awareness of the intervening centuries makes a mess, but the modern world can't accept dual or treble legal power centers, and most Muslim communities are emotionally unable to accept the idea of voluntarily declining to live formally under God's law when they have to power to do so. Unstoppably force, meet immovable object. Of antimatter.

It's really not that Islam is violent as religions go. It's that they've got a higher than normal number of crazy fundies in power at this stage of history.

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