[So why do you care in the least bit?]
Because I find homosexual couples to be, quite frankly, completely disgusting. It's just my morals and values. Men are made for women; women are made for men. Hence, the difference in genitals, testosterone, estrogen, etc. Excuse me if my morals are a little primitive, but there are just some things that should not be changed (i.e. marriage).
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Too bad marriage as you know it, a bond based on mutual love and sexual attraction between a man and a woman is a construct of the societies of Western Europe and America and has existed for no more than 150 years. For much of history, marriage was little more than a business/social contract between families. Often, women received the short end of the bargain, and had no choice in the partner, or were forced to be party to a polygamous marriage. As marriage never changes, maybe you too would like to be forced into an arranged marriage?
Btw, throughout history in many societies homosexual relationships have been condoned and served a social function, even if not equated with marriage. Check out India, the Melanesian islands, Italy, Greece, Thailand, etc.
Because I find homosexual couples to be, quite frankly, completely disgusting.
Remember the cliché of gay men as grossed out by female genitalia; insofar as that has any basis in fact, why don't gay men get to use the argumentum ad ick, too?
Well, I find fundamentalist couples to be, quite frankly, completely disgusting. It's just my morals and values. So, I will now go to my state legislature and impose upon you and the rest of the public a codification of my personal morals that ought to be only applicable to me (and which may or may not be based on some thousands-of-years-old book that you think is stupid) in an attempt to make it illegal for fundamentalists to marry. It is an integral part of my moral structure that I must impose my moral structure upon everyone who disagrees with me.
Okay, and as soon as the country becomes the United States of Proudtexasgirl, any of this would have credence. Up until that point, it amounts to "Gays shouldn't get married because I think they're icky."
Because I find homosexual couples to be, quite frankly, completely disgusting.
I find some food items to be completely disgusting. Should they be illegal?
Heinlein wrote that you should never allow your morals to prevent you from doing what's right. We're not talking about morals, values or religious beliefs, we're talking about the Constitution and whether you support it or not.
I'm guessing you weren't one of the ones complaining when interracial marriage was illegal and women were property and all.
Also, explain hermaphrodites, the clitoris, and male g-spot. Don't worry, we'll wait.
"Because I find homosexual couples to be, quite frankly, completely disgusting."
And I find you disgusting, you Proud Texas Whore.
"Excuse me if my morals are a little primitive..."
And the winner of the award for Understatement of the Century goes to.....proudtexasgirl!!!!!
"Because I find interacial couples to be, quite frankly, completely disgusting. It's just my morals and values. Whites are made for whites; blacks are made for blacks. Hence, the difference in genitals, melanin, apearance, etc. Excuse me if my morals are a little primitive, but there are just some things that should not be changed (i.e. marriage)."
proudtexasgirl's grandma, about 50 years ago.
but there are just some things that should not be changed (i.e. marriage).
Too bad for you that marriage has been changed on numerous occasions during the past but I don't hear your opposition to those changes, how come?
"I find homosexual couples to be, quite frankly, completely disgusting."
I find Brussels Sprouts to be, quite frankly, completely disgusting, Proudtexasgirl. Do we get to outlaw those, too?
*HEADDESK* Do you think we care about your morals and values? If they don't match ours, we have the right to ignore them. Stop ramming your ideals down everyone's throats. And WHY WHY WHY was this posted to GameFaqs?
EDIT: I just read the thread this came from. I reiterate: WHY was this on GameFaqs?? Can't the Fundies stick to Rupture Ready?
"Excuse me if my morals are a little primitive, but there are just some things that should not be changed (i.e. marriage). "
But why stop there? There are a ton of primitive morals that we can change back they way you like them (i.e. slavery, child abuse, racism).
"Men are made for women; women are made for men. Hence, the difference in genitals, testosterone, estrogen, etc"
Where do hermaphrodites fit in?
1. Everything has someone who is disgusted by it. I am disgusted by mayonnaise to the point where I've told bosses that unless they want their worker going home early to vomit, they should have someone else work with the stuff.
2. Therefore, if we banned things on the basis of what is disgusting, nothing would be allowed. I don't want to forbid everyone else from eating mayo, I just don't want to eat, handle, or see it any more than I have to. And believe me, it sounds like a silly example, but if we let disgust overrule our logic, silly is the only road to go down.
If you find it disgusting, it probably has nothing to do with your morals and values and everything to do with a gut-level reaction.
BTW, I doubt you've actually seen the genitalia of the opposite sex yet, much less handled them.
"It's just my morals and values."
Isn't it just a wee bit hypocritical to force the entire world to live by YOUR personal values, especially when you concede that you have no better reason than that you think something other people do is icky?
Now, I am atheist and opposed to gay marriage. Why?
Because marriage is a Christian thing.
What gays need is a new form of union, a secular one.
The best suggestion I've heard is to change current law so that a new "civil union" that has nothing to do with religion is enshrined in law and essentially allows any people to be married with consent and the prerequisite age of intent, and the marriage is presided over by a judge. This allows for Homosexual and Polygamous marriage.
All religious based marriage laws are then dropped. But wait there's more; then every religion must draw up their own specific conditions for marriage under their religion which is then examined by lawmakers and ratified if it violates no laws.
So the Catholics would include a clause prohibiting divorce and the Muslims would have conditions for polygamous marriage and the Christians could keep gay marriage out of their churches.
Take up the cause people, don't campaign for gay marriage, campaign for Civil Unions and secularize the law as it should be (separation of church and state people!). Then let the fundies fight amongst themselves over their silly marriage laws!
"there are just some things that should not be changed (i.e. marriage)"
That's one thing. Perhaps you meant "e.g." Anyway, marriage *has* changed, unless you plan to marry somebody your parents have chosen for their own reasons and have them pay for the privilege.
Besides, "I find this disgusting" is *not* a moral position but a subjective judgement with no philosophical weight behind it. A lot of people found interracial marriages (illegal in your state until 1967) disgusting - no doubt a lot still do (the technical term for such people is "bigoted scum") - but that doesn't stop them being legal nor should it.
WTF is this dross doing on GameFAQs?
Yeah, well, I find a lot of Texas girls pretty gross. (Houston=fattest city in the world)
But I still don't care if they want to get married.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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