Gays and lesbians DON'T REPRODUCE (THANK GOD!)
If it was inherited, HOW COME they were born at all? They HAD TO COME from the union between ONE MAN and ONE WOMAN; when 2 homosexuals meet, we must remember that one notch up the line, FOUR ADULTS fell for the opposite sex!
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So lesbians aren't able to become pregnant? That's news to me. There are plenty of gay couples with children, adopted or otherwise.
So four adults 'fell' for the opposite sex. What's your point? My family works at a hospital, our parents were a farmer, insurance secretary, welder and dental assistant. What does that prove? Nothing. By the way, don't forget to thank god for making folks gay to begin with. If he hadn't, you'd have to find some other group to demonize. Praise the lord you have someone to hate! Just as jesus would have, right?
A harlequin fetus has a very low chace of survival and even lower chance of reproduction, yet I'm pretty sure they don't choose to have a horrible, life threatening, skin condition.
So to inherit a trait, you have to be born to people who have that trait? Hmm. Neither of my parents and none of my grandparents are albinos. Wonder how I became an albino then? I don't recall choosing to be one.
Oh, wait, that's right:
[Morbo]Genetics does not work that way! Goodnight![/Morbo]
The problem with today's society is that we have too much knowledge and people only remember parts of everything.
People get a bit from this, a bit from
that, don't understand either and see a connection in their mind. And voila, you have something like this guy.
He knows something about genetics (or at least hereditary properties), knows that homosexuals exist, therefore homosexuals had to be born from homosexuals. If only he had paid a little more attention to his biology classes...
Well, people with hemophilia and some types of cancers which develop and kill are inherited as well. What´s the point, if these people, obviously, can´t reproduce?
Uh-huh. And throughout our 6,000 years of recorded history, not one single homosexual person gave in to societal pressure, married a person of the opposite gender, and had children. Nuh-uh. Not even Oscar Wilde.
Do you want to know the scariest thing of all about fundies? They could be anywhere- even in your own home! Let me slow down here as to not sound crazy...
On the outside, Christians typically have the outward "perfect family" appearance to them, as do many of my relatives. BUT, on the internet, where you can remain annonymous, it allows the perfect hatred to FLOW. And boy it flows like a river from the fingertips on the keyboard.
So what I'm saying is that fundies can be anyone, and anywhere. I believe forums that harbor fundies bring out the true personality of the "perfect Christian".
Not every trait is inherited in that utterly simple way. If your dog has a litter of puppies, there may be only one white pup, but that white coloring WAS inherited, even though neither parent nor any sibling has similar coloring.
Not only are were dealing with recessive genes, but homosexuality is certainly a polygenic trait. Hard to track, but inherited nonetheless.
ApostateAbe, the "logic" is NOT good -- fundamentally or otherwise. The poster claims outright (in ALL CAPS yet) that gays do not reproduce. He states it as a bald assertion, in absolute contradiction of known fact (i.e., that many confirmed homosexuals have children).
The poster simply cannot imagine homosexuals having heterosexual sex (which I must confess confuses me, too, if they are supposed to be truly gay and not bi, but that doesn't invalidate the facts), so he just claims that it doesn't happen. There is nothing logical in that "reasoning."
~David D.G.
Despard: I knew I wasn't right, but I just couldn't for the life of me remember what the correct term was. Thanks.
David D.G.: Well, don't forget, you have homosexuals who realize "after-the-fact" that they're in reality gay. And of course there's auto-insemination for the lesbians.
"Sickle cell anemeans DON'T REPRODUCE (THANK GOD!)
If it was inherited, HOW COME they were born at all? They HAD TO COME from the union between ONE MAN and ONE WOMAN; when 2 sickle cell anemeans meet, we must remember that one notch up the line, FOUR ADULTS fell for the opposite sex!"
(after reading the new version, I realised the original made less sense than I first thought.)
<< Well, don't forget, you have homosexuals who realize "after-the-fact" that they're in reality gay. >>
Dni: Exactly. I hear about those a lot; I've even met one or two. I just don't understand how one can be gay and not realize it; it makes no more sense to me than someone saying that he was straight but didn't realize it. I'm not claiming it can't or doesn't happen, just saying that I can't wrap my mind around it.
~David D.G.
If it was inherited, HOW COME they were born at all?
Homosexuality appears to be heritable. But the mechanism is neither simple nor known. One surprising finding is a correlation between being a gay man and having a gay uncle on his mother's side. This suggests male homosexuality is something inherited from the mother, probably on the X chromosome. As for why evolution hasn't wiped the gene out, the suggestion is that if it is something on the X chromosome, it has some evolutionary advantage to women, and so gets passed on even though it is a disadvantage to men (i.e., the gene in a woman makes her stronger, but same gene in a man makes him gay). All of this is very speculative, though.
If it was inherited, HOW COME they were born at all?
Ever heard of recessive genes and environmental factors, dipshit?
we must remember that one notch up the line, FOUR ADULTS fell for the opposite sex!
Yeah, and the sky's blue. What's your point? No one is demanding that everyone turn homosexual, except the straw man you and your ilk keep setting on fire.
@ApostateAbeI think this is fundamentally good logic. If a trait makes you much less likely to reproduce, then it is unlikely that you inherited the trait from a long line of ancestors.
Tell that to people with cystic fibrosis. Or sickle-cell anemia. Or a few dozen other deadly genetic disorders.
If it were a dominant gene, inheriting it would be difficult, and it would almost have to be a mutation that occurred during development or in the sperm or egg before fertilization. Recessive genes, on the other hand, don't really matter unless you get two of them.
Yes, because the minute you come out of the closet your ovaries and sperm sacs shrivel and die. /sarcasm
This is a very superficial treatment of genetics. Most gay people are born to straight families. However, I have noticed that more than a few gay people I know and have known have gay relations (uncles, second cousins, etc).
This is enough to turn a fundie into a tree hugging liberal.
Intersex fish raises pollution concerns in U.S
Thu Sep 7, 2006 2:25pm ET
http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=scienceNews&storyID=2006-09-07T182502Z_01_N07410891_RTRUKOC_0_US-ENVIRONMENT-FISH-SEX.xml&WTmodLoc=Home-C5-scienceNews-2
By Deborah Zabarenko, Environment Correspondent
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The discovery of intersex fish -- males with some female characteristics, including some carrying
eggs -- in Washington's Potomac River is raising concerns about pollution from chemicals that can affect hormones.
A preliminary investigation by the U.S. Geological Survey found a high incidence of intersex among smallmouth bass in the
South Branch of the Potomac and Shenandoah Rivers, both near Washington.
"We ended up identifying a problem that is typical of endocrine disruption, that is, seeing eggs in the testes of sexually
mature fish," Chris Ottinger, an immunologist at the Geological Survey's National Fish Health Research Laboratory, said on
Thursday. "It was something that warranted further investigation."
These so-called endocrine disrupting chemicals are used widely in industry and in consumer products including
pharmaceuticals, cosmetics, perfumes, plastics and even materials used to keep barnacles from clinging to boat bottoms.
Theo Colburn, an environmental health analyst who has specialized in studying the effects of endocrine disruptors, said they
work during gestation, and have been linked to feminization of male fish in the Great Lakes, smaller penises in alligators and
polar bears, and hermaphroditic whales -- with genitalia of both sexes -- in the St. Lawrence River.
SAFE TO DRINK
Laboratory studies have shown developmental effects from very low doses of hormone disruptors, but it would be
technically impossible at present to remove such low concentrations of these compounds from drinking water, Colburn said
by telephone from her office in Colorado.
The manager of the water utility that covers a large swath of the Washington area stressed that drinking water is safe.
"As water plant manager, what I know is that there is no evidence pointing to any concentrations of these substances in the
water that are having human effects," said Thomas Jacobus, manager of the Washington Aqueduct. "The water is safe to
drink."
Jacobus said the water was tested for some endocrine disrupting chemicals, but noted that there are potentially 20,000 of
these compounds in existence.
The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency said in a statement that the exact amounts of these chemicals, especially at
extremely low doses, in the environment are difficult to determine.
"Little is known about the potential harm posed by trace amounts of PPCPs (pharmaceuticals and personal care products) in
drinking water," the agency said in a statement. "Current water treatment processes may remove some PPCPs, but more
research is needed to determine how efficiently these compounds are removed by various treatment technologies."
Reuters journalists are subject to the Reuters Editorial Handbook which requires fair presentation and disclosure of
relevant interests.
Reuters.com
Please don't make me explain what little I know about genetics, because next to you, I'm fucking brilliant. Recessive genes, I'll leave it at that.
"They HAD TO COME from the union between ONE MAN and ONE WOMAN"
Ah I see, so it's the heterosexuals who are to blame for this "ghey plague".
"If it was inherited, HOW COME they were born at all?"
In addition to recessive genes, are you forgetting about how in the past (and in the present in many places), gay people were forced to be straight? And how do you "prove" you're straight better than knocking up a pretty young lady? And what about bisexuals?
@John
"As for why evolution hasn't wiped the gene out, the suggestion is that if it is something on the X chromosome, it has some evolutionary advantage to women, and so gets passed on even though it is a disadvantage to men (i.e., the gene in a woman makes her stronger, but same gene in a man makes him gay)."
It's a back-up, if something happens to you or your spouse, to have an unmarried brother or uncle who can take care of your children; makes it more probable that they will live long enough to have offspring (and spread the genes further).
Yeah, because no gay person of either gender has ever reproduced. Not ever.
Sure, and there's no fish in the sea and no sheep in Australia.
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