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It would be more accurate to compare the assaults against blacks with the assaults against gays, such as Matthew Shepherd and thousands of others. A more rational comparison would be the laws against interracial marriage finally struck down in the Loving case. Opponents predicted the destruction of civilization, yet the only people who think twice about interracial marriage today are racial supremacists afraid of "diluting the race."
It's totally different, you guys! We gay-bashers aren't as bad as the segregationists! I mean, sure, we want to take away gay rights, but not as many as the anti-Black people wanted to take away.
See? Totally different!
Dear fundies like Adam Ford
I find that the groups mentioned hate homosexuals violently. I also find many of the same arguments used against interracial marriage as homosexual marriage. I found incidents like Matthew Shepherd not too different from the 50s when a black could be assaulted for merely looking at a white woman.
"We are not as bad as racists."
True, it's "not as bad", but that's largely because (1) there are a lot more black people in this country than there are homosexuals, and (2) it's harder to identify gays by a single glance.
I've never seen anybody insist that people do not have the right to be black, that they are black because they chose to be black, or that they can be converted to white by intensive retraining.
Oh, fuck off, Adam. Seriously.
The first panel in the final series of four - 'look these up' - was great, and would have remained so were it not for the preposterous follow-up. Those who have to look up the broad terms listed in panel one are likely all too young to have had a direct hand in any of those activities. And, yet, random white people who do educate themselves on racism should then engage in self-flagellation and, because all black people are apparently alike (and none would be pissed off by the presumption), apologise for Jim Crow laws and for trying to protect and expand the rights of sexual minorities.
Knowing what I do now, I flatly refuse to consciously practice an action or support a system wherein people are segregated, mistreated, or murdered as a result of race OR sexual orientation (among other things). If that's not enough, when coupled to an ongoing desire to use privilege to dismantle itself, then an apology for crimes I didn't commit won't matter either.
And gay marriage is on the same footing as interracial marriage.
I think he's trying to say that discrimination against black people, which resulted in black people, amongst other things, being assaulted or even killed, some of them in a manner that was perfectly legal, at the time, is different to discrimination against gay people, which resulted in gay people, amongst other things, being assaulted or even killed, some of them in a manner that was perfectly legal, at the time. He doesn't really explain in what way, however.
Scratch a homophobe and you'll discover a racist. The one good thing about Trump is by making racists feel it's OK, we're getting a look under their sheets.
There are three businesses that I used to frequent that I don't any longer. I'm sure it makes little difference to them but it makes me feel a lot better.
And then, when you finish reading through this , you can kiss my ass, you dishonest little hypocritical shit.
A few things about this piss me off. First of all, are people really comparing just one facet of anti-gay discrimination (the marriage issue) to ALL injustice against blacks? Or, does Adam think not being able to marry is the ONLY injustice gay people have faced, ever?
And, I say a hearty "fuck you" to the panels numbered 2 and 3. Sorry, but I'm not apologizing for something I had no part in whatsoever just because I happen to have the same skin color of those who did.
The struggles are similar. People have been killed for being LGBT, people are discriminated against, treated as not equal, and if they don't think the civil union "compromise" they tried wasn't "seperate but equal" in action, think again.
Whoever this is, if they are black, they don't speak for all of us. I'm black and queer, and see the similarities.
Oh, while you're looking up the Jim Crow laws, Google a little thing called sodomy laws. All Western nations had them, at one stage.
No wonder Mildred Loving supported same-sex marriage:https://www.acslaw.org/acsblog/mildred-loving-endorses-marriage-equality-for-same-sex-couples
Sometimes I think that racism and homophobia are evil twins.
The root of their shitstorm, their one glaring error is the WRONG belief the Christian definition of marriage is law and the only definition. Wrong, Christianity isn't old enough, even including judaism to claim ownership of the institution. Or By The way, Government, society, culture, politics, land ownership, commerce or ANYTHING to do with free peoples lives.
You don't believe Gay Marriage is right? Don't gay marry then, you, your Bible, your church and your preachers ARE NOT IN CHARGE.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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