Difference here, smoking is morally neutral. It is not a sin, unless it becomes gluttony.
Porn and masturbation are always gravely sinful.
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Yep, killing yourself through addictive, toxic chemicals is just fine, but doing something that can keep you from getting prostate cancer is just HORRIBLE.
Masturbation is natural, normal, and actually GOOD for you.
Smoking is killing yourself slowly.
Ugh this is completely ridic.
Smoking slowly kills you.Masturbating is good for you, completly natural and you can't get pregnant or STDs from it.I don't really bother with porn but hey to each their own,as long as it isn't child porn or something like that.So uh..what if a person smokes a cigarette and masturbates to porn?Does it cancel out the sinfullness of it?
The bible doesn't actually say anything directly about masty. It does say that you shouldn't lust over women, be self centred, disrespect your spouse, or lose control of your masty.
As such, Christians should masty for Jesus. Just imagine Jesus as a super hot chick... problem solved. And bonus - saying "oh jesus!" mid stroke takes on an entirely new religious significance for you!
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So while smoking has been demonstratively shown to be deadly, God doesn't care. But porn and masturbation which don't hurt anyone, God bursts a fucking vein.
Actually this is very much in Yahwe's, God of Death and Blood, MO. Something that spreads suffering and death, is good. Something that is pleasurable or celebrates life, is bad.
What Christian logic.
"Polluting your body = Fine and dandy"
"Succumbing to natural sexual impulses = SIN!"
But if I smoke after unprotected sex...that's Kool & The Gang, right?
you missed something there
porn and masturbation is GREAT!!!!!
lung cancer on the other hand is'nt as pleasant
1 Corinthians
3:16 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?
3:17 If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.
That sounds like a condemnation of smoking to me.
Huh? Smoking is harmful, both to the smoker and to the people around him or her. Masturbation hurts no-one, it's quite the opposite. The Porn industry can be rather harmful, but just the action of looking at a sexy picture is not.
If you "consume" large amounts of Chick Trackts, televangelistic shows and bible-studies, isn't that a form of gluttony?
Masturbation is normal and healthy. And no, it doesn't mean you're "lusting after the flesh" or anything, either - many asexual people use masturbation as a form of release.
Heck, even James Dobson, the fundie Emperor from Focus on the Family, doesn't think that it's a sin. Your smoking comment, on the other hand, is too stupid to even address.
Difference here, porn and masturbation is morally neutral. It is not a sin, unless it becomes gluttony.
Smoking is always gravely sinful.
Fixed.
Porn and masturbation don't cause lung cancer in innocent bystanders.
Therefore if you MUST call something sinful, don't you think it should be the thing that harms others?
"Difference here, smoking is morally neutral. It is not a sin, unless it becomes gluttony.
Porn and masturbation are always gravely sinful."
Chimpanzees are known to take up smoking, if given the chance. And more often than not, male chimps fap themselves silly (and like the Fist of the North Star). According to you fundies, animals don't have souls. Yet, we humans share at least 98% of our DNA with chimpanzees - and Darwinius masillae (the 'Missing Link') proves we are descended from primates.
Your call, kage_ar.
If you smoke, you're intentionally poisoning your body, which I would think is tantamount to suicide, which is a serious sin in Christian mythos. How is that morally neutral? Oh, I know, it's because your "morals" are hideously warped.
Get over yourself. Masturbation is harmless, smoking is not. That's all that matters.
Smoking puts you at a higher risk of cancer.
Masturbation puts you at a lower risk of cancer.
By this logic, Catholic fundies think cancer is good.
Cannot comprehend.
@dirtyape
"The bible doesn't actually say anything directly about masty. It does say that you shouldn't lust over women, be self centred, disrespect your spouse, or lose control of your masty.
As such, Christians should masty for Jesus. Just imagine Jesus as a super hot chick... problem solved. And bonus - saying "oh jesus!" mid stroke takes on an entirely new religious significance for you!"
Well, Chick Boy used to do something similar ; but then he (unwittingly) hit on a trap : the result ... :P
WARNING: links definitely not safe for work! ^^"
@Average Guy
"Smoking puts you at a higher risk of cancer.
Masturbation puts you at a lower risk of cancer.
By this logic, Catholic fundies think cancer is good.
Cannot comprehend. "
Well, there are quite a few similarities between fundies and cancer...
Masturbation harms no-one, it's actually healthy.
Porn, in and of itself, harms no-one. The porn industry, however, harms many people, both directly and indirectly. Its only concern is profit, and it doesn't care how many people it has to trample underfoot on its way to profit.
Smoking harms both the smoker and the ones subjected to the smoke. The second-hand smoking might even be more dangerous than sucking on the cancer stick yourself. In my mind, this is the most morally reprehensible of the three, but you call it neutral.
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