This is so true. It is illegal to discriminate against homosexuals now. So says the SUPREME Court of the Land. To me, it means they can go after christians now.
Reminds me of the Nuremburg Trials of the judges who okayed the laws against the Jews. These are judges okaying immorality across this great country.
Woe to us. Woe to this once great country of God fearing peoples.
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...Nuremburg Trials...
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"To me, it means they can go after christians now."
Of course, everything is ultimately about you, isn't it?
Ok, katiesmom: how could that possibly, authentically remind anyone of anything to do with the Nüremberg trials?
The only thing linking the two is - in the real world - that they were trials, and in your warped world, that they "were both about immorality".
And even then, you're still in topsy-turvy land, unless you're arguing that it was wrong to convict German 'judges who okayed the laws against the jews' of crimes, "in the same sense" that "we now see a court doing something wrong".
So, which is it: are you a psychotic antisemite as well as a sexual bigot or just outrageously poor with analogies and a bigot?
It is illegal to discriminate against homosexuals now.
Yep. Great, isn't it?
To me, it means they can go after christians now.
What? No it doesn't. The supreme court didn't say anything about discrimination against christians.
Reminds me of the Nuremburg Trials of the judges who okayed the laws against the Jews.
GODWIN!!! You lose.
Woe to us
YAY!
Uh, how can they "go after Christians now"?
The only change I see is gays & lesbians now have the same rights under the law that Christians have.
Sooooo stopping discrimination against one group of people is a sure sign of discrimination to come for another group.... Yes, why of course. This makes complete logical sense.
Do these people think that there must always be a group that is being discriminated against? Do they really have that hard a time with equality as a concept?
It is illegal to discriminate against homosexuals now.
Replace homosexuals with "coloreds". Many Christians were whining about that too.
To me, it means they can go after christians now.
Right, because giving someone the same rights as you is persecution.
Reminds me of the Nuremburg Trials of the judges who okayed the laws against the Jews.
Errr... so you would've supported this? /*snark
http://www.ushmm.org/outreach/en/article.php?ModuleId=10007695
Well, it makes sense. It's your side that wants to ban certain marriages. It's your side that wants to make discriminatory laws. Just sayin...
Woe to us. Woe to this once great country of God fearing peoples
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It is illegal to discriminate against homosexuals now. So says the SUPREME Court of the Land. To me, it means they can go after christians now.
OK, let me get this straight (no pun intended): There are only so many marriages around, so gays being allowed to marry somehow means that straights cannot get as married as before (alternatively: Gays marrying too means some kind of “marriage inflation”, thus “devaluing” straight marriages).
On the other hand there is a fixed “amount of discrimination” and the fact that people are no longer allowed to discriminate against gays means that the discrimination will find a new target, and that is obviously Christianity.
Did I get that right?
That sounds pretty dumb.
The Nuremburg Laws were a set of anti-Semitic laws issued in 1935 that laid out who was to be considered Jewish and that forbade "race-mixing".
The Nuremburg Trials were a set of trials of major war criminals of the Nazi regime that stated in late 1945. One of the things they were being punished for, amongst many atrocities, were the Nuremburg Laws.
Do these Christo-fascists not attend schools in the US?
"It is illegal to discriminate against homosexuals now. So says the SUPREME Court of the Land. To me, it means they can go after christians now. "
Right, we have to discriminate against somebody. But what I don't understand is, does this ruling mean we are allowed to go after muslims now? Or does it mean we have to stop going after muslims.
Obviously discrimination is in a state of equilibrium. If you lower discrimination for some people, you have to raise it for others. If you make a certain kind of marriage legal, you have to make another kind illegal. It makes perfect sense, if you think about it.
It is illegal to discriminate against homosexuals now. So says the SUPREME Court of the Land, therefore we can persecute Christians.
It is illegal to discriminate against homosexuals now. So says the SUPREME Court of the Land, therefore we are just like the Nazis.
I think my brain just became a pretzel trying to wrap itself around this logic. No wait, not a pretzel. Those usually still have an organized and coherent shape. I think my brain became Christmas lights after sitting in the attic for 5 years.
This is so true. It is illegal to discriminate against homosexuals now. So says the SUPREME Court of the Land. To me, it means they can go after christians now.
So, anywhere and at any time such a move has been mooted, officials and politicians have gathered and asked themselves "What do we do? Should we discriminate against homosexuals or go after Christians? It's one or the other". I'm a historian and I'm think I'm right in saying no one ever said this anywhere.
Reminds me of the Nuremburg Trials of the judges who okayed the laws against the Jews. These are judges okaying immorality across this great country.
You do understand it was the Nazi judges who were on trial at Nuremburg, not the Jews? The Nuremburg laws were discriminatory; just as you like them.
1) It's Nuremberg, or, if you want OV, Nürnberg.
2) the Nürnberg trials were an American initiative after WW2, to judge nazi prominents.
3) not being allowed to discriminate against people, solely based on who they are is bad, because?
"It is illegal to discriminate against homosexuals now. So says the SUPREME Court of the Land. To me, it means they can go after christians now."
So discrimination is only bad when it's against you?
This is so true. It is illegal to discriminate against homosexuals now. So says the SUPREME Court of the Land. To me, it means they can go after christians now.
NO IT DOESN'T! First Amendment! You religion is safe!
Reminds me of the Nuremburg Trials of the judges who okayed the laws against the Jews. These are judges okaying immorality across this great country.
Are you saying it was WRONG to prosecute the Nazis?!
Woe to us. Woe to this once great country of God fearing peoples.
This country is, by law, a secular nation. Read the 1st. Amendment again, dummy! Religious faith of all kinds (and no faith at all) is safe! If there's anyone ruining this country, it's the idiot politicians you support & their penchant for cutting funding on anything that helps Americans & outsourcing jobs!
I will never, ever, understand why people created gods they are afraid of.
BTW. Technically, it has always been illegal to discriminate against homosexuals but silly fundies and vile right-wingers kept doing so and we sane folk have had to keep creating legislation that specifically prohibits your dirty tricks.
For cryin' out loud!
Really what this is saying is "I want to be a persecuted Christian. Bring on the gay lions and tigers"
Enough with the false drama. You persecuted the gays for long enough, so they should really persecute you, just to even things up. But they won't, because the law doesn't allow it. So shut your false alarmist trap. If you were to be persuceuted, it would be condign.
"It is illegal to discriminate against homosexuals now. So says the SUPREME Court of the Land. To me, it means they can go after christians now."
Umm, yes, it is illegal to discriminate against Christians. What's the point you're trying to make here?
@lol
Fundies compare someone to Nazis=Godwin. Liberals compare onservatives to Nazis=activism.
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It's always a Godwin, no matter who's using it. Unless the comparison is valid (i.e. Free Republic members talking about wanting to exterminate all Muslims), I don't care if you're Glenn Beck or Rachel Maddow. Falsely comparing anyone to the Nazis is wrong. It makes light of the death and suffering of millions of people and all for a cheap jab to give you an advantage in an argument that ultimately doesn't matter.
"It is illegal to discriminate against homosexuals now."
No, it isn't. They just tossed the decision back to the states, who are free to discriminate if they want to. They mereley declared that the federal government must recognize gay marriages of gays in states that decide to legalize them.
"This is so true. It is illegal to discriminate against homosexuals now. So says the SUPREME Court of the Land. To me, it means they can go after christians now."
Well, you can't consider yourselves True Christians if they're not 'going after' you, can you not? Therefore STFU and take your 'Persecution' like the pwecious little Christains you are. Suck it UP, princess! [/hyper-sarcasm]
"Woe to us. Woe to this once great country of God fearing peoples."
...meanwhile, on Planet Reality, outside the dimension known as 'Fortress America' full of Spiritually besieged fundies:
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In Soviet Great Britain - with NHS since 1948, abortion & homosexuality legalised since 1967, and same-sex marriage laws to be passed next year - God fears you .
"This is so true. It is illegal to discriminate against homosexuals now. So says the SUPREME Court of the Land."
Duh, it's called "Not being a dick to people different than you".
"To me, it means they can go after christians now."
Right, because the main teachings of Christianity is about being a bigot over a few vague quotes. "Love thy neighbor? Help the sick and poor? What the fuck is that?
...Nuremburg Trials...
You just had to pull a Godwin, didn't you.
This is so true. It is illegal to discriminate against homosexuals now.
Yup. You can no longer legislate your morality onto us. Deal with it.
So says the SUPREME Court of the Land. To me, it means they can go after christians now.
Or...y'know...it just means you guys don't get to try and force the government to make us second class citizens. Seriously, I must have the wrong edition of the Bible because the way these guys go on, their's must just be a piece of paper that read "NO FAGS! EVER!" in 40 point font.
Reminds me of the Nuremburg Trials of the judges who okayed the laws against the Jews.
You slept through history, didn't you? The Nuremburg Trials were AFTER the war, to get justice for the SURVIVORS OF THE HOLOCAUST.
These are judges okaying immorality across this great country.
Newsflash. Homosexuality was already legal. Now we are just allowed to have our relatinships legally (LEGALLY, this word is relevant) recognized. I don't give two shits if your church doesn't recognize it, it is the legal, SECULAR definition that matters.
Woe to us. Woe to this once great country of God fearing peoples.
Woe to us, the government won't back our bigotry anymore Womp womp. Oh, listen, here comes the WAAAAAAAAAHMBULANCE.
Wow to us. Wow to this great country of once God fearing people .
Fixed that for you, asshole.
"Nixon floated past, bumped against a floodlight stand. " . . . the free peoples . . . the free peoples . . . " - Keith Laumer, Goobereality
"It is illegal to discriminate against homosexuals now".
In most areas of life, yes, it is. And that's a good thing.
"To me, it means they can go after christians now."
Define "go after Christians".
"Reminds me of the Nuremburg Trials of the judges who okayed the laws against the Jews"
This isn't the Holocaust, lady. Christians are not being hunted down and executed. Calm your tits.
To me, it means they can go after christians now.
No, Christians were already protected by the Civil Rights Act of 1964, which prohibits discrimination in voter registration, public accommodation or employment based on race, color, religion , sex or national origin. Sexual orientation was left off that list. It still is. The pro-gay SCOTUS decisions applied to the government, not private industry.
"To me, it means they can go after christians now."
Except that's not what it means. Discriminating against another group of people is not a part of religious freedom.
"Reminds me of the Nuremburg Trials of the judges who okayed the laws against the Jews."
First off, Godwin, your argument is invalid. Second, not letting you publicly discriminate against people doesn't equal the Holocaust. Go be a bigot in your own home.
Congrats, sweetheart, you just Godwinned, and therefore, have lost the argument.
Cool your jets, katiesmom. Just because gay people can no longer be legally discriminated against doesn't mean that people are automatically going to start targeting Christians now. There doesn't always have to be a particular group that is being persecuted.
Leave it to a fundie to take an event that is a sign of progress towards a better future and turn it into a self-righteous whining spree.
As a bisexual Jew, I just have to say fuck you, katiesmom07, for exploiting the crimes against my people (as well as LGBT individuals) as an excuse to bitch and whine about losing part of your privileged existence.
First off, making discrimination illegal leading to prosecution of Christians is a non sequitur. After all, wasn't "love thy neighbor" a Christian concept to begin with?
Second, Godwin's law. 'nuff said.
Finally, you are just making yourself look silly with that "woe to us" stuff, people might take you a hair more seriously if you skip on declaring yourself a victim of something that shouldn't affect you either way.
It is also illegal to discriminate due to religion, and has been for decades and decades.
You do know that the Nuremberg trials were the process of prosecuting the Nazis, right? Those were the Nazis who okayed the discrimination, internment and murder of homosexuals and Jews, ya know.
To me, it's much more immoral to okay discrimination than to be attracted to a person of the same gender. So in my eyes, YOU're the one okaying immorality across that great country of yours.
Woe to all pro-civil-rights people. Your great country doesn't have, and have never had, a state religion. My country had a state religion for about a thousand years, but is now perfectly ok with homosexuality (at least the majority of us; I'd guess that we have more xenophobes (aka racists), than homophobes, actually).
"It is illegal to discriminate against homosexuals now."
If you don't like that, do you see were you and the rest of society differ?
"To me, it means they can go after christians now."
Yes, for discriminating against gay people, if the Christian has done so. Same fucking thing would apply to any atheist, muslim, jew, hindu, shintoist or pagan.
" Reminds me of the Nuremburg Trials of the judges who okayed the laws against the Jews. These are judges okaying immorality across this great country."
If you actually believe judges had any say in Nazi legislation, you fail history forever.
I think she means the Nuremburg laws.
Still makes no sense. Laws designed to combat persecution are the same as laws designed to actively persecute?
Especially in the light of the fact that the Nazis also used laws, though not specifically the Nuremberg laws, to persecute... homosexuals.
You feel like you can't be Christian if you can't discriminate against homosexuals? Why does that make me think of some waste of space saying he can't be a man if he can't hit women?
Yet another idiot who thinks that religious freedom is the freedom to impose your own religious views on other people (when it's actually the opposite).
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