Beating isn't creative enough for me. I really want my children to stay on their toes. When my youngest was 6 (she's 7 now, so not long ago) she dumped her entire plate of dinner over the balcony of our apartment onto the grass below.
So I made her her favorite snack! An awesome bowl of popcorn..JUST FOR HER! I let her take a bite. And then guided her over to the balcony, and proceeded to dump the entire bowl. She looked at me like I'd just cleaned her clock. She was then instructed to go pick up all of her dinner, and every single one of the 60486 popcorns on the ground below and then do her dishes.
Lesson, learned.
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So making a child clean up after herself is worse than beating the kid now?
I realize the retardedness here, punishing a 6 year old for things 6 year olds do, but... no.
and where in the Bible does it say that punishments should be creative, thats not religion, it's sadism, i hope you are not getting sexual pleasure from it, either way i hope for your Daughter's sake she is taken into care
Teasing and tormenting small child... yeah, that's really adult of you, you damned twist.
I think the reason she looked at you oddly was relief at not having huge fucking adult beating her small 6 yr old body.
So, rather than just making the kid clean up her own mess, which would be fair and serve to illustrate your point, you deliberately made a much bigger mess so that her punishment would be thoroughly disproportional, and strung her along for a cruel surprise into the bargain rather than just dealing straight. You're a sadistic control freak.
Actually, that's pretty funny. A friend of mine told me a story from when he was four. He was acting up and being a real pain, which culminated in him throwing his spaghetti dinner at his mom. So she made him a bowl of blancmange, let him have a bit, then dumped the bowl over his head. He then had to go and wash (which he hated) and do the dishes under her supervision. He never threw food again.
Anyway, why is this even here? She doesn't beat her kids. There's a lot of difference between a light smack on the bottom and a stern word for bad behaviour, and a beating. That said, smacking doesn't always work, so creative methods like this are better. If more people parented like this, there would be less bratty kids throwing strops in restaurants. I'm inclined to believe the number she wrote is just a random number for illustration. Nobody seriously counts all the kernels.
Actually, I agree with this.
I don't agree with beating children, though.
My room was always a mess when I was a kids, dirty and clean clothes all over the floor, food, etc.
My mother threw everything in the backyard one day when I was at school. I had to go out there and the clean up the whole thing. I was still a little messy after that but never to that extent again.
My parents never hit me, actually I think that was the worse thing they ever did to me.
This is at least an attempt to make a child form a cause-and-effect relationship and not just beat her into submission. But the popcorn really was unnecessary. Pick up the food, clean it up, go to bed hungry--you don't have to elaborate on that too much. Nor should you *enjoy* punishing a child. That's what reads fundie to me--she's just so damned *tickled* by herself and her creativity in punishment!
Help! The air outtake tubing on my dryer is clogged with popcorn!
PS If I was 6 years old (not 4 or 5) and had thrown my food around I woulda got the spatula, yes, my parents spanked me, it wasn't particularly traumatizing and did not appear to cause brean damagagage.. If this one decides to not spank the kid and go through some extra hoops to teach them some valuable life lesson or whatever, well, power to the parent, mine woulda just spanked, sent to room bawling, and that woulda been it.
So, uhm... What's wrong with simply sending them to bed without diner? And coocking the same thing the next day, until she eats it.
Not that fundy, but she sound like she enjoyed that just a tad to much.
I find this punishment way better than sending her off to bed without food.
What I don't enjoy about this post is the obvious sadism, hell, she shouldn't be enjoying this! The 60486 popcorns is exagerated, but the method is not so bad, really.
It makes the child empathize with the mother. Just picking up food she doesn't like wouldn't leave the impression that it did in this case.
"So I made her her favorite snack! An awesome bowl of popcorn..JUST FOR HER! I let her take a bite. And then guided her over to the balcony, and proceeded to dump the entire bowl. She looked at me like I'd just cleaned her clock. She was then instructed to go pick up all of her dinner, and every single one of the 60486 popcorns on the ground below and then do her dishes."
You seem to have enjoyed that just a bit too much.
"Lesson, learned."
Not yet. Wait until she's older and rebels against you. Then you'll have learned your lesson.
After reading the first sentence, I was prepared to read another gut-wrenching account of fundy cruelty. This isn't it. Therefore, I think all the comments about this being "sadistic" are just knee-jerk reactions and, thus, are the only fundy part of this scenario.
Then learn to fucking cook, bitch.
I'd tell her to repeat this story at school, where the teachers will call CPS, but you probably homeschool her to "protect" her from the "poisonous" wordly kids.
Eighteen isn't needed, just wait until she's physically big enough to fight back, then try that again.
Not fundie in and of itself. but it is mean spirited and crossed the line when she went beyond just simply making her daughter pick up the mess.
She has too much glee about"winning" over her daughter's misbehavior.
I agree with those who say that the biggest problem is that the parents sounds like she enjoyed punishing her daughter too much. I also disagee with the food wasting, and there's a reason why I was never too fond of food fights. Also, yes, this sounds too much like sadistic parenting.
I feel for the poor little girl. :(
Uh, so what's wrong with this? Why is this quote even here? They're not abusing or treating the kid badly, they're giving a punishment for negative behavior.
You guys gotta screen these a lot better.
Sounds really more like a waste of food than a lesson she'll learn from. In fact, she probably just learned it is ok to dump food off the balcony. Glad I live on the top floor, all I get is stinky people below me and smoke. Maybe next time send her to her room or make her do ALL the dishes?
How did this even get voted in?
Well, it IS a pretty good way to teach a lesson I guess...
I don't see anything directly sadistic, however this "mom" seems to be bubbly about giving the punishment, so I would say there is the possibility of increasing sadism that cannot be dismissed out of hand.
That said, six year olds can still do that as many of them don't fully grasp the concept of right versus wrong. Having the kid clean up the mess and go hungry that night would have been more than sufficient--but making the favourite snack and wasting it is clearly superfluous.
You are wasting food. Why don't you just tell her to pick the dinner up instead of making her feel bad?
@ whoever suggested CPS:
Trust they would do worse things to the child. Look it up. CPS are just a couple of criminals that destroy families and make children live like hell. Instead of letting CPS do the job, try other people. Hell, I'm sure defending the children yourself would be much better than having them sent away where they will face abuse with their new family, at the orphanage, or become one of CPS's guinea pigs.
Before you label me as some conspiracy theorist, go see what the Child Protection Services really do. I'm not saying that you should do nothing against child abuse. Just don't let CPS (and DCFS) do the "protection".
Eh, this is a little on the extreme side, but it's not too terrible. All and all, this is a pretty lame submission, who the Hell approved this?
Okay, the "Beating isn't creative enough" raises some red flags for me, but the example cited doesn't strike me as anything extreme. Mom puts time and energy into supper, which goes (literally) out the window. So Mom makes something that can symbolize her care, and throws it out the window for the daughter. Then she makes the girl pick it all up. I'm sorry, maybe there's good reason for me to not have children, but I think it's a pretty reasonable punishment.
Meh, not fundie, I guess this person proved his/her point to the child and the child learned a lesson without violence, it's OK in my book.
Just for the hell of it, I made a bowl of popcorn an hour ago, and filled a litre jug with the puffed corn (you couldn't "take a bite" before puffing them, after all). I then counted the pieces. There were 278 pieces in that litre (after puffing, of course).
Some simple maths...60486/278 = 217 litres (about 57 US Gallons, or a shade under 8 cubic feet)
You're a liar.
"Beating isn't creative enough for me."
She's right. Beating isn't creative. It's what parents do when they cannot think of a better, more appropriate form of punishment. Beating a kid is lazy, teaching a kid is hard.
I don't think she really did anything wrong. Her daughter isn't going to hate her for this (asuming the mom isn't doing anything worse than this). In fact, the daughter will probably think its funny when she's older. Saying her daughter is going to get even with her when she's older is just silly.
My mom did worse stuff than this to me. We're good, we joke about it. People need to calm down.
Nice lesson. Mum is allowed to throw food over the balcony, then I must be too. Then Mum had me clean up after her, she's lazy...
Physical abuse hurts right now, psychological abuse hurts for much longer.
Like many people said, not fundie of abusive. A bit over the top, but if it makes the point better, than so be it. It's actually amusing.
Personally, I think the note of sadism that some of the brighter sparks on here are picking up on might be nothing of the sort, but merely a frustrated mom venting, kind of like we do when we say STFU and GTFO, N00b, and DIAF.
Not one mention of jebus, gourd, etheist, goys, or mislams. Not fundie.
For all of those who are saying this "isn't cruel" or that "it teaches empathy to the mother".
What about a mother's empathy towards her daughter?
Since this is written from the perspective of somebody who really seems to enjoy the experience of punishing her child, we can be almost 100% sure we're not getting the whole story. Did the daughter purposefully drop the food, or was it an accident? Is this the first time it happened, or is it a habit for her? We don't know.
And aside from making her pick up all the popcorn (which is stupid and cruel enough), there's the fact that popcorn is her favorite snack! . I'm reminded of a column where a parent, "knowing" it was wrong to hit his/her child, asked if there was anything wrong with punishing a child by smashing one of his/her toys with a hammer! (apparently this parent didn't realize that sends out a "you're next!" message).
The point is, deliberately making a child's favorite food allowing her to eat some of it, and then tossing it over the balcony and forcing the child to pick it up is manipulative and cruel. It says "this is what I think about you." The lesson might have been learned, but it sure as hell wasn't the right lesson.
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