Question for those who don't believe in God - plane crash tragedy today in Hudson River.?
For those of you out there that do not believe there is a God, how do you think the miracle of those people on the plane that crashed into the Hudson, lived? There is no way that those people could have survived if there is no God. He was truely looking after them.
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There is no way someone as stupid as yourself could find food for so long in life, that you live to be old enough to post on the internet, without a divine power looking after you. Therefore, God must exist.
No, it is a miracle of a good pilot and good emergency response services (which were on their way even before the plane had hit the water). It is also a miracle of modern airplane engineers, who have started to build pretty reliable aircrafts with a lot of backup for emergency situations.
What about the passengers on airplanes that crashed that didn't survive? Or, more commonly, do you think a near-miss on the freeway is a sign of God? It's a poor example. Everyone of us is here through sheer luck- missing an accident or one kind or another by a few minutes, taking another flight, being conceived at the right time, etc.
There is no way that those people could have survived if there is no God. He was truely looking after them.
And yet, the evidence would say it turned it's back on all those unfortunate folks on 4 hijacked airliners that fateful day in September 2001.
Moron.
Did god write the chapter on contingencies in the flight manual?
Didn't think so.
Does god even have a pilot's license?
Didn't think so.
Did a huge hand grab the plane in midair and gently floated it in the river?
Didn't think so.
For those of you out there that do not believe there is a God, how do you think the miracle of those people on the plane that crashed into the Hudson, lived?
Um, because Mr. Sullenberger is a fucking brilliant pilot with a lot of training and experience behind him? He landed the plane in a river, went around and checked all the seats to make sure everyone made it out, and didn't get out of the plane himself until he was sure the passengers were all safely out.
Seems to me those people wouldn't have survived if there was no Mr. Sullenberger. Your god was too busy not giving a shit about the horrors that occur in this world every day to actually take notice.
"He was truely looking after them."
Not that this hasn't been pointed out a thousand times before, but was he truly looking after them when the birds hit the engine just minutes prior to that too? If so, he's a sadistic prick. If not, for a supposedly omniscient and omnipotent god, he's pretty damned incompetent.
Question for those who don't believe in the Flying Spaghetti Monster- plane crash tragedy today in Hudson River.?
For those of you out there that do not believe there is a Flying Spaghetti Monster, how do you think the miracle of those people on the plane that crashed into the Hudson, lived? There is no way that those people could have survived if there is no Flying Spaghetti Monster. He was truly touching them with his noodley appendage.
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KDH wrote:
"God had nothing to do with it. If you want to thank someone, thank the pilot who was quick enough to change course, and the engineers who built the plane to survive such a crash." And the guys who developed the emergency Ditching procedures for the aircraft.
You fucking asshole. How about showing some respect to and acknowledging an amazing pilot? Have you ever done something in your life that you're really proud of? Imagine someone coming up to you and saying "well, that was just God, wasn't it? everybody could've done THAT with god". Fuck off man.
As a relative in the FAA has pointed out repeatedly, the only "miracle" involved in that plane crash is that the pilot actually kept calm and did what he was supposed to do. Of course, one could also argue that it's miraculous that somebody actually followed FAA safety regulations, given the sheer number of people who deliberately break every law they can about air safety.
Also, if a <i>plane crashes</i> and nobody dies, that's not a tragedy. Hell, only one person even had any broken bones out of all the people on the entire plane. A tragedy would be if all those people had died.
Because surely the Almighty God has nothing better to do than stop a plane from crashing. I mean, there are cures to cancer and AIDS, there's no longer such a thing as poverty, everyone is well-fed, and war is non-existent. Yep. Everything is satisfactory in our world- so much so that God doesn't have anything to do to make it better than to save a plane.
For the nth fucking time, god had nothing to do with it, it was a great pilot, and a little luck. If anything, I bet god was trying to kill them all. But I guess airplanes are stonger than iron chariots. Or they have the same god-repelant.
Or else they had a skilled pilot who was lucky to be near a large body of water when he lost power, but either way. Maybe Santa Claus helped out by slowing the plane with his flying reindeer.
Edited to say: How exactly was it a tragedy? I thought everyone survived?
@ mattias
I love the scene in Great Ball of Fire where Jerry Lee Lewis gives a brand new Oldsmoblile to his cousin, Jimmy Swaggart, when his beat up old Plymouth takes a dump.
JS; "Thank JEEEEsus!"
JLL; "Don't thank Jesus, cousin. Thank Jerry Lee."
You really suck, you know that?
Give the people on the plane credit. They deserve it. They were resourceful, God wasn't.
Question for those who do believe in God: how come the probable intended victim of the Tucson shootings, Gabrielle Giffords, still lives? She was shot in the head by a extreme right-wing person. Maybe God IS looking after the elected leaders of your nation?
Oh sure, it had nothing to do with the fact that the freakin' pilot managed to keep his cool (no, divine intervention is optional there, dude), and figure out the best thing to do.
So why doesn't God let us mere earthlings into the secret of building crash-proof airplanes?
Oh yes, and on behalf of everybody who has ever lost a love one in a plane crash (fortunately it hasn't happened to me) - go die in a fucking fire.
"Question for those who don't believe in God - plane crash tragedy today in Hudson River.?
For those of you out there that do not believe there is a God, how do you think the miracle of those people on the plane that crashed into the Hudson, lived? There is no way that those people could have survived if there is no God. He was truely looking after them."
Or they had a damn good pilot. Oh, and just three numbers completely annihilates your argument: 9/11. NEXT!
more convincing if the plane had landed normally at its destination.
good pilot, good weather and river conditions, good rescue units.
You might want to sit down because what I'm about to tell you will result in Culture Shock:
It's not 'Faith', nor 'Miracles' that keeps planes up in the air. And these days, with advanced avionics, GPS etc in civilian airliners, the fucking things almost fly themselves .
Man -made technology makes the modern world you live in today. No 'God' requred.
Gaps. Curse those pesky scientists filling 'em, eh...?! [/hyper-sarcasm]
So when something good happens, it's "god's will", and when something bad happens, it's the "people's fault because they were sinners", right?
How fucking convenient for your god.
While I'm sure God put that pilot there to handle that situation, not everyone believes in god. So if someone wishes to believe that it was due to the pilot's skill that they survived (Which it was), let them.
Don't see myself here but I know I countered a story like this years ago with two similar stories with two different outcomes.
In one story a co Pilot went into prayer mode and ended up charged for neglect of duty because it was determined the plane would have suffered less damage and less life loss had he stayed on his job and assisted.
The other might be this story where the pilot had glider experience and managed to belly land on water as soft as possible (both were sudden engine failure on takeoff). On that one the news talked to survivors and Rapture Ready people and FoxNews (some posted here) were shocked no one was thanking God.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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