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There is a soft drink company, believe it may be Pepsi, that is using aborted baby cells to flavor pop. When you think they have hit bottom..look out..the bottom is still a ways to go

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old comment by Anon-e-moose

"There is a soft drink company, believe it may be Pepsi, that is using aborted baby cells to flavor pop."

Care to go to the HQ of Pepsico, and say that to the face of the CEO - with the company's lawyers present, Mom2ten?

And would you like to give me just one good reason why I shouldn't fire up my e-mail, and send one off to Pepsico - with your own, exact words verbatim - toot sweet?

Better pray your 'God' has the power to appear in physical form to defend you in court then*. Or bring money. Lots of money.

*- Watched the Billy Connolly film "The Man Who Sued God" the other day on TV.

--EDIT--

Indeed, I've just e-mailed Pepsico (via their .co.uk domain), and let them know. Oh, and don't bother with deleting that thread, Buzzardnuts & Mr(Wo)Mannn. Not only is this quote saved here in FSTDT, I've also saved that thread on Ruptured Retards for posteriority, and I'm prepared to e-mail such to Pepsico's legal department, should they request it.

So don't be surprised if your admins receive a 'Cease and Desist' notice from Pepsico in due course. But if you should want to continue in your tinfoil (ass)hattery, then see you in court, RR. >:D

old comment by Doubting Thomas

This is nothing but an urban legend which, I'm sure, will continue to live on among fundies with email capabilities. My own mother-in-law fell for this and (I think) still believes it. At any rate, she was telling us not to buy Pepsi products a while back.

I don't know why the fundies are against Pepsico, but a while back a bunch of them had a webpage urging people to boycott Pepsico because they have a policy of tolerance toward gay employees. Their website had maybe 400,000 people signed up on it pledging to boycott Pepsi. Pretty paltry figures in a country of almost 300 million. Eventually they claimed victory and took the site down, even though I'm sure Pepsi's corporate policies toward sexual orientation didn't change. I'm assuming the "dead fetuses used to flavor Pepsi products" is just the latest salvo in the continuing war on Pepsi by fundies. The interesting part was that on the boycott Pepsi webpage, it stated that the Coca-Cola company has similar tolerance policies as Pepsico, but they were only targeting Pepsico. So I'm guessing some group of fundies have the panties in a twist over Pepsico.

old comment by Anon

>>tmarcl

Actually, she's partly right. Pepsi is using aborted cells for taste testing flavors, not for flavoring<<

That is not correct.

PepsiCo has a contract with Senomyx, a biotechnology and chemical-synthesis firm, for developing artificial flavors. Senomyx works with many large food corporations.

In one of the company's own research projects, not under contract to anyone, Senomyx used HEK cells to model the human response to sweet and umami tastes, as part of an effort to figure out which proteins to target for future flavor development (artificial flavors work by adding minute traces of chemicals that have very high affinity for the proteins in the taste receptors on the tongue).

HEK cells are a cell line derived about 40 years ago by taking samples from the kidney of an aborted fetus and adding the genome of an adenovirus to them. They are easily maintained in culture, and easily cloned and genetically modified. They've been used in a very wide range of biological research.

old comment by Anon

HEK cells aren't aborted cells. They are descended from aborted cells, but have gone through thousands of divisions since then. Van der Eb and his group (who made the cells in the first place) used aborted fetal samples that were donated for research purposes rather than discarded, from abortions that had happened anyway. They could probably have taken a kidney biopsy from a living human and gotten the same result. But they went through about three hundred samples before they got a stable culture, and subjecting three hundred people to invasive tissue sampling is not a good thing to do.

It is not immediately obvious that HEK cells were used directly at any point in Senomyx's work with PepsiCo products. I'm not sure why they would need to be used. Once you know which proteins you're targeting, you can stitch the code for them into a bacterium, overexpress it, and cook up the proteins in much larger amounts than HEK cells could possibly make. But the details are all corporate secrets, because there is a huge market for artificial flavors.

Most of the coverage about PepsiCo, Senomyx, and the HEK cell line on the internet is less than accurate. And the Wikpedia page on Senomyx is currently flagged 'neutrality disputed' and 'citation needed'.

old comment by Anon-e-moose

@Mystical Chicken

"@Anon-e-moose

I'm sorry, this is just bugging me: it's "tout de suite", not "toot sweet"."

Sorry about that. Just using the 'slang' version of the phrase; also in context (sugary drinks).

Speaking of drinks, cop for this:

http://www.coorslight.co.uk/closertocold/

'Hello.
Yes, I am Van Damme.
It was 22 years ago today.
I was alone in the Rockies.
My clothes were taken by big sweaty bears.
I was scared.
I was left with nothing except my tight leopard-print underpants.
My nipples were so cold, they started talking to me
Let me tell you, friends,
That was the closest I have ever been to the ice-cold refreshment of a Coors Light. Yeah.
Coors Light, the world's most refreshing beer.'

And in a single stroke has Jean-Claude Van Damme been forgiven for the abortion that is the "Streetfighter" film. We Brits just love anyone famous who don't take themselves too seriously. (Lionel Richie in the Walkers Crisps advert, parodying his own "Say You, Say Me" tune; also being the 'Star in a Reasonably Priced Car' in "Top Gear". Also President Obama doing his 'Jedi' with a toy lightsabre).

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Anon-e-moose

Seems that Buzzardnuts/Mr(Wo)Mannn has been checking in on FSTDT - this thread at least.

The previously easily accessible thread on RR has been moved to the private, members-only section, as clicking on the quote link brings up a 'You are not logged in or you do not have permission to access this page' message.

What are you afraid of, Ruptured Retards? What have you got to hide? Think that this tactic will prevent Pepsico's lawyers from seeing what has been alleged on your site? Remember: I have that thread saved, and am ready & willing to e-mail it to Pepsico's legal department, should they request such.

Even deleting that thread will avail you naught, Ruptured Retards. >:D

old comment by Anon

>>El Camino

Human Embryonic Kidney cell. Regardless of how many times it has been cloned, it originated from a Human Embryo.<<

And so did you and me and the cultured skin cells in the burn unit of the hospital down the street. The difference of course is that the original tissue samples used to produce the HEK cell line came from the kidney of a terminated embryo.

But the HEK cells that are being used right now are many thousands of divisions and several major genetic alterations different from the cells that were part of an embryo. This is an important distinction. Senomyx doesn't go out and ask abortion clinics to put a "donate for research" option on their paperwork. They order tubes of clean HEK cells from a biological supply company and alter them to include the genes that they care about.

>>As far as "wrong" goes, that is a matter of belief.<<

That is certainly true.

>>It is what it is... Read the research. <<

I did.

old comment by Rhiaden

This has actually been rehashed on the batshit nutty Infowars site the last week or so..

http://www.infowars.com/obama-agency-rules-pepsis-use-of-aborted-fetal-cells-in-soft-drinks-constitutes-ordinary-business-operations/

You have to scroll past paragraphs of shit to get to the penultimate paragraph which says:

"To be clear, the aborted fetal tissue used to make Pepsi’s flavor chemicals does not end up in the final product sold to customers, according to reports it is used, instead, to evaluate how actual human taste receptors respond to these chemical flavorings. But the fact that Pepsi uses them at all when viable, non-human alternatives are available illustrates the company’s blatant disregard for ethical and moral concerns in the matter"

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