Dave Hodges #fundie

Dave Hodges #fundie barbwire.com

There are some very dangerous immigration trends taking place in Western Europe and the United States. Both regions of the world beg the question: How many third world immigrants can a nation absorb until that nation ceases to be what it once was?

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If the European Union and the United States do not act now to stem the tide of Sharia Law-inspired immigration, there will cease to be a Western Europe, and possibly a United States, as we know it and the transformation will reach the tipping point in a few short years.

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If this omnipresent threat was reversed, Christians by the thousands would be rounded up and led away to prison. Americans are allowing political correctness to pave the way for the imposition of Sharia Law inside the United States because we are too intimidated to name the threat for what it is, an invasion of the very tenets of Christian based society. Sharia Law is synonymous and is tantamount to espousing an overthrow of the existing legal and social order in both Western Europe and the United States

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old comment by KittyKaboom

Have you seen the stats regarding the religious groups in the US, skippy? Christians have the overwhelming majority. And don't give me that 'but not all of them are actual, true christians' bullshit, either, because whether or not they're in church four-five times a week like yourself, they identify as christians and their beliefs guide what they do.

They vote those beliefs and if you think the religious reich is ever gonna allow sharia, well...that's just simple-minded paranoia. The fact that LGBT people are finally getting civil rights, women are finally getting dominion over our own bodies (though you fight like hell against it), and other religions are considered equal under the law is not equal to having you rounded up and forced to submit to sharia.

Guess what? None of the rest of us want that, either. Not liking christian religious laws doesn't mean we like the laws of other religious wackjobs.

Stop 'white-knighting' yourselves. Christianity isn't preventing the US from embracing sharia.

The secular law does that, while preserving your right to be as christian as you wanna be. You just don't get to force it on the rest of us.

Grow up and abandon the persecution complex. It is most unbecoming.

old comment by whatever

..."until that nation ceases to be what it once was?"

Well, what do you perceive that the nation "was"? And at what point in history do you make that definition?

In what way does the nation now cease to hold the attributes you define as "what the nation was"?

How many other people around you agree with you on "what the nation was", and how many other people agree that the nation is no longer "what it was"?

How is the "new nation" worse than the "old nation"? And is it only worse for you, or is it worse for everyone, including the immigrants?

..."there will cease to be a Western Europe"...

No. Plate tectonics and geological laws do not allow for this type of change without a major asteroid impact.

..."an invasion of the very tenets of Christian based society."

Not all of society is (or has been) Christian.

old comment by

Pot, meet kettle.

There are some cities in the US where there have been problems, not with Sharia, but with large Muslim populations throwing their weight around; fundie Muslim cab drivers who refused to pick up certain passengers from an airport come to mind, among other problems. And the arrogant Muslim men in my neighborhood who intentionally try to make women feel shamed and uncomfortable, who stand with veiled women in the checkout line, looking me up and down with disgust when I wear shorts in the summer, as if I were a prostitute.

Kinda like how there are places in the country I wouldn't be able to get a Plan B, or heaven forbid, an RU486 prescription for an abortion if I needed it. Or like the whole fucking MAJORITY of the US Congress who think they have a right to make laws forcing me to give birth, and who want to pass constitutional ammendments defining marriage by their religious rules.

You're absolutely right, we need to nip that shit in the bud, before it gets out of control. Oh, wait...

old comment by michael3ov

Its alarmist to the extent of Christians being rounded up by the thousands. However, in many countries multiculturalism has gone way too far. "Sharia Law(sic)-inspired immigration" is ridiculous but there are societies, parts of England for instance, that are kowtowing to Muslims and their desire to be governed under Sharia. They have given them separate courts and are allowing citizens to be judged under a religious law.

Of course bleeding heart liberals consistently allow it or ignore it in the name of multiculturalism. I'm not a conservative by the way so don't even try to label me like a Sarah Palin. I strive to be unclassifiable in the political sense. However, I recognize the threat to free society that Muslims seeking to change centuries of law in order to feel more in line with their backwards holy book poses.

I also recognize the threat of political correctness and the threat that poses to honest and rational discourse about very real and serious issues. People obsessed with a misguided sense of multiculturalism and political correctness constantly make me think of those who would be authors of a newspeak dictionary. "Islamaphobia" is a perfect example.

old comment by Yossarian Lives

@michael3ov:

There are Sharia courts in the UK, around 85 last time I checked, but they're mostly centred around family disputes. They are permitted because the UK has taken a view that as long as religious practices are applied amongst that particular community only, then it's tolerated. If this infringes upon the beliefs and liberties of others it is not, so no non-Muslim would be dealt with at these courts, and there is no evidence that any of these courts have abused their position as far as I'm aware. They are bound to the Human Rights Act, therefore the worst excesses heard about in the news from cases abroad won't be permitted; each defendant has to be given fair and equal treatment etc.. It is not like Islam has been given preferential treatment; other religions are allowed to apply religious practice in a similar manner if they desire. Jewish courts have existed in the UK long before any Islamic based court was established. There is a debate to be had over whether tolerating the religious in their application of their practice is better than refusing any religion to apply thieir own forms of justice amongst fellow believers (I generally lean against tolerance of this), but it is simply erroneous to imply that Islam is being treated favourably over other religions in this circumstance, nor is it effecting non-Muslims.

We need to acknowledge the truly dangerous and sickening aspects of Islam, as with all religions, and there are apologists that make excuses for Islam, but resorting to hyperbole will only discredit legitimate criticism. I say this because there is a risk that any valid concerns over the homophobia, violence, and sexism of Islam will be conflated with the opinions of those that are prejudiced and bigoted towards Muslims.

This really does read as the opinion of an outsider looking in through the lens of a Daily Mail reader or Fox News watcher; Birmingham is now 100% Muslim, don't you know?

old comment by Canadiest

The problems are these:

Sharia Law has much in common with Biblical laws of literalists or fundamentalist Christians,
BUT
In America those that call themselves literalists or fundamentalists know the least of Biblical scripture than anyone else
AND
Are totally raised on fear of outside threats EASILY infiltrating your home, your country, your spouse, you fuckin car even.

SO

"Lets introduce more modest clothes for women"
"Great" says spoilsport devote Christians
"Let's only show their eyes, mailslot style"
"Perfect" says spoilsport devote Christians with porn at home.
"Like the Islamics do"

"Huh?, say what? Could you repeat that I was watching this,,, um,, educational video"

As a regular of newsites on the web, I've seen many stories of church promoted policies being introduced that open the door for other belief system ideologies then the following chaos when they realize it allows nearly any imagined outcome OR how close what they wanted (blasphemy laws, modesty laws, restricted activity areas, civil laws demanding religious connection, y'know, the south) totally relating to Sharia law agendas.

No wonder they think it's happening. The Christians are lobbying for it.