Each Catholic must search their own heart and soul. Through prayer and thoughtful reflection, they will realize that if they vote for Obama, they will burn in eternal Hell. Catholics cannot be Pro-Choice! If you can't hack the rules, then go to Hell!
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Why does the most powerful country in the world have the most stupid political problems? I mean seriously, American politics is jsut beyond stupidity, in Australia you don't hear every 5 seconds that if you vote for some guy, you're going to burn in hell, or so and so is antichrist or you're unAustralian if you vote for this guy!
I mean come on! American politics is seriously gay.
@Mitch: Yeah, but you did have John Howard ;-)
Then again, we had Tony Blair, who only decided to tell us -after- he stepped down that his judgement was being impared by religion.
Randall, maybe you missed the part about "confession" and "absolution" in your confirmation class??? You fundies really are funny when you try to sound Catholic!PS I know that Randall Terry missed the part about adultery being a sin. And I have a lot of questions about his knowledge of the 9th commandment, too.
@ Mitch
You obviously have never met any Aussie fundies :-)
Seriously, they are a bit quieter here, but the Catholic Archbishop of Australia, parties like Family First, and groups like Hillsong are espousing the same kinds of crap.
I've got a very simple rule:
RELIGION =/= POLITICAL VIEW
It's just a pity that not everyone follows it.
@Lilith:
Hillsong isn't too bad, they may have views, but I don't seem to remember them forcing them upon us. They mainly just preached about forgiveness and (this bit I was always iffy over) letting Jesus into your heart (so he can love you or something). Politics never really got mentioned (though money did every now and again. i.e.: "We'd finally got enough pledges to afford an ice-skating rink"(if only I was sarcastic,. they actually bough the damn thing in Norwest))
But they are still irritating (hence why I don't go there any more)
Oh, and my experience with aussie fundies are that they, like the rest of the country, lazy and can be and can't be bothered really doing much. Which makes them harmless, and just mildly entertaining...well except those extremist groups, but then we send "A current Affair" and "Today Tonight" after them to sort em out)
I grew up in a largely RC Italian immigrant town in NY on the Hudson River. When I was 16 & 17 in the late 70's, I knew a few good catholic girls that had abortions then got on the bus to Washington, DC each January (with their parents) to protest the Roe vs Wade decision. This trip was sponsored by our church.
As usual it proves that religion is hypocritical. You can be holier than thou as long as it doesn't affect you personally. When it does hit home, then they are glad that the "liberals" have a back up plan to get them out of their mess.
Actually, they will realize you're an idiot, and McSame will fuck us over, and -- with that knowledge -- will vote for Obama.
this is actually a good tactic:
accuse Dmocrats of beiong ungodly, and say no true Xian (TM) can be a Democrat, and you may persuade at least some floaters, or simple-minded to vote Republican instead.
If you can get a priest to do it, all the better!
In a way he is right about Pro Choice.
For a (true) catholic the word of the pope (if spoken ex cathedra) is law.
And AFAIK there never has been a pope who was Pro Choice.
Of course every pope also is against divorces and contraception via pill or condomes, therefore you will find only few true catholics out there, as only few catholics fully obey their shepherd in this ;)
Wow. When I was Catholic, I was spared this kind of fiery rhetoric.
While Catholics in my former diocese were encouraged to vote pro-life, they were never threatened with hellfire for voting for a pro-choice Democrat instead. What a douchebag.
if they vote for Obama, they will burn in eternal Hell.
The Church just says if you have an abortion, you'll burn in hell. Obama's soul is his own problem.
Massachusetts and Rhode Island have some of the highest concentrations of Catholics anywhere in the US, with huge numbers of Irish, Italians, Poles, and French-Canadians. These two states are also about the bluest states there are. Democrats almost always control both legislatures and most governors (Bill Weld and Mitt Romney were anomolies), and are certain victories for Barack Obama. Are you going to excommunicate millions of Catholics because they won't vote your way?
"Through prayer and thoughtful reflection, they will realize that if they vote for Obama, they will burn in eternal Hell. Catholics cannot be Pro-Choice! If you can't hack the rules, then go to Hell!"
'Rules'? What about Laws ?:
The US Constitution. Roe vs. Wade. Romans 13:1-5.
Your argument - and your Catholic doctrine's right to exist - is invalid.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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