I know our children are not ours, they are God's. He just lends them to us for a time but they are His to do with what He wants.
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Yeah, that's true. Although God recently said that He's thinking of not lending us any more of His kids because we keep giving them back all battered and bruised and, in some cases, showing signs of malnutrition and sexual misuse. And that's just the physically damaged children. Too many of God's children have been mentally damaged as well. God's fed up having ghosts wandering about heaven who are violent savages or money obsessed greed-bags, or wild bigoted liars or snotty prudish prigs who want everybody to be as self-loathing as them or prissy over-sensitive Mummy's boys who want to drag everyone down with them to be straight-jacketed forever in their dank caverns of fear and despair.
Who can blame Him? If we can't look after His precious creations we don't deserve to be raptured.
Unfortunately we have them over here too. My son was at school with two, a boy and a girl, absolute little monsters who'd had no discipline their entire lives, arrogant, disruptive, bullying brats who believed themselves special and superior to all their classmates. Their mother (who was proud of being one of nine children from a deeply religious family) refused to take any responsibility for their behaviour, saying it was god's business not hers.
Eventually they were taken out of school and (I believe) entered into a special school: normal teachers couldn't do a thing with them and they were ruining the classes for the other kids.
Well, HugsFerJebus, you were once someone's crotch-dropping yourself, as was anyone unlucky enough to aid your spawning, so that means you're just "on loan" too - but to whom? The whole thing smells like a pyramid scheme to me.
If my kids are actually God's when the fuck does he plan on paying his fair share of their upkeep and education? I haven't seen one dime from that deadbeat since they were born.
You know that would apply to yourself too, right? If you just belong to God then God can do whatever he wants to you, according to your reasoning. If you try to use this as an excuse to abuse or kill your children, I will hunt you down and... <*The rest of this rambling was expunged. --Editor*>
Remember kids, when a family member sexually abuses a child, it was God's divine will that put the child in the situation in the first place, making God the ultimate child rape enabler.
A couple of comments talk about "not remembering" unsaved children when in heaven, so they wouldn't be sad.
Merciful mother!! They're volunteering to be brainwashed to be happy (sort of sums them up).
Any god who would do that is unworthy of worship or love, even if omnipotent.
This ammounts to her saying that she doesn't own her children and can't expect to control their lives, that their relationship with God is between them and God, and not for her to fix...and this is the part that's fundie?
I thought slavery was abolished for the most part in civilized countries. If one human being cannot own another, why would your god have that privilege? Pretty irresponsible of him to lend them out or do whatever he pleases isn't it? Is your god a child burning ants with a magnifying glass? Plan my ass. No ethics is more like it!
Anyone else get a creepy vibe from this quote?
And if the children are not yours but just on loan from God, why do people on RR get so upset when their kids are gay or atheists?
Actually, until you prove the existence of God, you shouldn't really give him ownership of anything. And, even if God DOES exist, he has made knowing what he wants quite a puzzle. Plus, while you may be the caretaker of your children, they are people, you know. You don't own people.
Still going to want credit if the kid turns out as planned, they always do. Also guarantee that if the kid ends up a heroin addict, it'll be the devils fault, and his gay liberal minions, 100%.
I know our children are not ours, they are God's
My children are my own. I have the DNA tests to prove it.
He just lends them to us for a time but they are His to do with what He wants.
So free will doesn't exist and we are all just playthings to capricious and malevolent deity? And you people wonder why I'm not a christian.
This is even creepier than the "children are my property" stance.
Children are PEOPLE. One day, they will be adults, and it is our responsibility to help them grow into adults. Why is this so hard for some people to understand?
"I know our children are not ours, they are God's. He just lends them to us for a time"
Well, you heard it here first here folks (and a Raptard admits such) - Jehovah, YHWH etc is infinitely worse than Zeus - and he was quite the player & child-sirer himself!
"but they are His to do with what He wants."
That's it. Ruptured Retards has finally reached the Moral Event Horizon.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MoralEventHorizon
HugsFromJesus's own attitude suggests a Complete Monster in the making:
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/CompleteMonster
The illustration on that particular Tv Tropes page is extremely appropriate.
From the same Jesus-hugging idiot:
"This may sound awful, but I think I could deal better if they died KNOWING Jesus (prior to the Rapture) then knowing that they could die without knowing Jesus or that we could be taken at any time and they will be left behind. I could be happier and more at peace with an absolute of their salvation because I would know that their death would only be a temporary separation. I am praising God that in His wisdom we won't remember our unsaved children (I take it that way as there will not be sadness in Heaven) and if we remembered, we would feel sad. Right?"
@Xotan, John_in_Oz
It's been said that God couldn't create his own money. And now we know why.
He couldn't magic up enough hard ca$h to pay the Child Support necessary for all the children that have been, will be, or are yet to be born. Do the words 'Absentee Father' ring any bells, HugsFromJesus?
...not to paint you further into your own corner, re. your own bullshit logic, that is. No pressure.
>:D
Yeah, just like he lent us the Earth that you are so intent on destroying.
You guys have a nasty habit of treating the things your God lends you like trash. You’re like a bunch of spoiled kids that just start smashing their birthday presents because you didn’t have to pay for them and Mummy and Daddy can always get you more.
I wouldn’t trust you with my kids.
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