Liberals love pedophiles, because they must do so to keep their own belief system intact.
For liberals to denounce pedophiles, ultimately they would have to denounce, lesbianism, homsexuality, and their particular favorite - adultery. And that's just no going to happen.
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I'm pretty much a liberal, and I consider adultery (i.e., cheating on a spouse or significant other) one of the most despicable things a person can do. Pedophilia is right up there, too.
Yeah, I'm as liberal as they come, and I think adultery is pretty shitty and pedophilia is downright abominal, and I know both of these are committed by conservatives to the same extent (possibly to a greater extent) than by those of any other political leaning. Not being a mind-fucked fundie bigot, I, of course, have nothing against lesbianism or homosexuality.
"Liberals love pedophiles, because they must do so to keep their own belief system intact."Your ignorance is showing. Liberals have no greater love of pedophiles than conservatives. How we propose to deal with pedophiles may be different, but we do not love or encourage pedophilia.
"For liberals to denounce pedophiles, ultimately they would have to denounce, lesbianism, homsexuality, and their particular favorite - adultery."
Lesbians are not any more likely than anyone else to be pedophiles.
As a liberal, environmentalist atheist, let me clearly state that I think adultery is a very bad idea. If you need to have sex outside your marriage, you shouldn't be married.
As for "homsexuality," I can only assume that you mean having sex at home. I think we can all agree that is the most discreet place for sexual encounters. I thought even a Fundie moron like you would be in favor of that.
"And that's just no going to happen."
Plenty of liberals have denounced pedophilia. It's already happened, Kev. Do try to keep up with the class.
Look ... is 'paedophilia' spelt differently in the US, or what? I keep seeing 'pedophile' and thinking of foot fetishists. Anyway, I denounce paedophilia loud and clear, and I don't think much of cheating on your partner, either. So there.
Yes, it gets me too. I always just type paedophilia. It's these damn Americans, always making mistakes when learning the English language. I mean, color?
Tiny Bulcher: No, the problem is that "pedophilia" is consistently misspelled in the U.K. and other places using British English.
Spelling differences like those mentioned are problematic enough, but the whole Jam-Jelly-Jello continuum is what gets me, and where marmelade fits in there is anyone's guess. Not to mention the hilarity that ensued when someone asked an American student I know if he could borrow her rubber...
Brain_In_A_Jar, the same thing happened to a female journalism student I knew who was from England. The American male student she asked for this, in class, was completely thrown; once everything was explained all around, the entire class had a good long laugh about it, but it took awhile for her blush to wear off in that class!
I am enlightened, thus: or [ɛ] (or unstressed [ə]). Examples (with non-American letter in bold): anaemia, anaesthesia, caesium, diarrhoea, gynaecology, haemophilia, leukaemia, oesophagus, oestrogen, orthopaedic, paediatric. Words where British usage varies include encyclopaedia, foetus, homoeopathy, mediaeval. Words where American usage varies include aesthetic and oenology. Archaeology retains the a in both versions (although archeology is also accepted in American English, it is uncommon), although the ligature is usually dropped. This difference is also half of the distinction between British manoeuvre and American maneuver." (Wikipedia, or should that be Wikipaedia?)
I must say, though, that whilst spelling changes like color/colour are fair enough, changing technical terms where the term has a specific meaning in Greek or Latin seems to be going a bit far. (Not that pedophilia would mean foot-fetishists; that would be a mangling of Latin and Greek, a thing you should never do, or so they told me on television).
What part of "informed consent", and the fact that children cannot give it and adults can, do you not understand? There is no inconsistency at all in saying that pedophilia is wrong and homosexuality is not.
OUR particular favorite? Who are you kidding? Christians cheat on their spouses just as much as non. Perhaps even moreso, since many non-Christians aren't bound by such strict sexual codes.
Similarly, because liberals don't denounce sex between non-married people, they must be fans of rape.
Gonna chime in here that I'm a liberal atheist, but I condemn pedophilia in the strongest possible terms, and I disapprove of adultery.
Fundamentalists hate the death penalty, because they must do so to keep their own belief system intact.
"their particular favorite - adultery"
And, apparently, Bush, by the same logic, loves islamic terrorist. Because if he denounce them, he will have to denounce fundie Christian, and then practicing Christians............
Part of the reason (IMHO) for a lot of adultery is the outdated concept of marriage. Staying with one partner for thirty years is unnatural, no matter how much you love someone. Now I realize many people's reaction to adultery, I for one see at least a percent of the time where it has been a good thing. Hear me out. Some of the folks I know have had flings with coworkers etc, but with different reasons. One guy's significant other has had a multitude of problems and has had a hysterectomy before she was thirty. she loves her husband (who was more sexual then her to begin with), but she also feels for him. she is in pain sometimes, and other times she is doing it like an automoton because it just doesn't mean much to her anymore. She allows (with conditions) him to have an occasional fling provided he doesn't "fall in love" with them or bring a disease home. May sound weird to some but it works for them.
I think the whole pedophile problem is exaggerated, personally. I honestly do. I mean, everyone's scared of them, the news has talked about them too often in the past, and stuff, so I have been led to believe it's exaggerated. 1 out of 5 children may be sexually solicite online, but 1 out of 5 adults probably don't even know what "solicited" means. Besides, little of those solicitations likely actually become problems, and this is coming from a thirteen-year-old girl.
I think the whole pedophile problem is exaggerated, personally. I honestly do. I mean, everyone's scared of them, the news has talked about them too often in the past, and stuff, so I have been led to believe it's exaggerated. 1 out of 5 children may be sexually solicite online, but 1 out of 5 adults probably don't even know what "solicited" means. Besides, little of those solicitations likely actually become problems, and this is coming from a thirteen-year-old girl.
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For liberals to denounce pedophiles, ultimately they would have to denounce, lesbianism, homsexuality, and their particular favorite - adultery.
I hate child molesters as much as the next person, liberal or conservative. However, a "pedophile" is not a "child molester" just because he/she has a sexual attraction. The moment they act on any urge is when the "pedophile" becomes a "molester". Most (say, 90%) pedophiles would agree that molestation is the most despicable thing that one could do to a child.
Informed consent.
That is all.
Right-wing Christian Fundamentalists love hypocrites:
Jim Bakker (Embezzling PTL 'pledge' funds)
David J. Stewart (Paedophile )
Because they must do so to keep their belief system intact.
For Right-wing Fundamentalist Christians to denounce hypocrisy, ultimately they would have to denounce fraud, adultery, homsexuality, tax evasion, rape, and their particular favourite - paedophilia. . And that's just not going to happen.
Because if every right-wing Fundamentalist Christian preacher was exposed and investigated, and ultimately jailed, the resulting scandal(s) would destroy their religion as a whole.
Just ask the Roman Catholic Church. Can you say 'P.R. Disaster?' Now name one Atheist scandal?
Fundamentalist Christianity. One big perpetual traincrash. And thus advancing the cause of Atheism.
I'm a liberal, except possibly on a couple of issues. I hereby denounce pedophilia. As a matter of fact, I think the worst of them should probably get the death penalty. I don't have any problem with gays, and adultery is a private matter between the involved parties. There ya go. Anything else?
So Kevin are you in favour of selling children into sexual slavery or are you one of those anti -free-market communists?
False dichotomies, even if you didn't know what a dichotomy was, there's a big clue in the "false" part!
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