That is a good point. When mankind was cursed, the man's curse was that the ground would not just produce for him, he'd have to work his tail off to make a living. The woman's curse was painful childbirth. People can't reverse or dodge either curse, you can't fix what God broke. Furthermore, God won't take that away until the new heaven and the new earth (Rev 22:3). Therefore, when a woman chooses a career, she is taking on the man's curse as well as the one she is stuck with. I don't know why people would choose two curses instead of only one.
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I don't suppose you've noticed that not every man works on a farm, on a ranch, or even in a garden? Plenty of men manage to support themselves by alternate means nowadays -- heck, many of them are just independently wealthy by now and don't have to work at anything at all if they don't want to.
twisted - it's called multitasking - something that, no doubt, you are incapable of.
Well, let's see... That's going to be a curse on you, and a curse on you, and oooh, that's going to be TWO curses on you!!!
Pike! - The mummy in the sarcophaegus in Larson's the Far Side?
Really, twistedsketch? I don't know about you, but I still have my tail. Of course, I don't work. I have lionesses to do that for me. In fact, I should have you know that...
Some women are able to give birth with little to no pain. Are these women, then, free from original sin?
Masanobu Fukuoka has developed a non-mechanized farming method which radically reduces the amount of labor to produce food -- by interfering as little as possible so that the ground can "just produce." (He's been known to say that the biggest job on his farm is writing poetry.) Is Mr. Fukuoka free from original sin?
(Somehow I doubt the fundies would agree -- painful childbirth and hard work to produce food are "proof" of original sin, but when people aren't stuck with them it always seems to be an "evasion" of "just punishment." For centuries, Christian doctrine -- both Catholic and Protestant -- held that shame at one's nudity was inherent in humans, as a result of original sin. This was supported by a literal reading of Genesis. However, when encountering cultures <i>without</i> a nudity taboo, was the same logic followed, leading to a conclusion that these people were free of original sin? Of course not! They were "obviously" under the control of Satan and had to be <i>taught</i> the "inherent" sense of shame.)
I see, twistedsketch, that the Renaissance was something that just happend to other people, wasn't it?
as has been mentioned, not all women have "extreme pain" in childbirth. Or any true pain at all. My four natural births were barely uncomfortable, and actually fun! Bringing a child into the world is very empowering and enjoyable IMO. After my first baby (when I discovered that I had nothing to be afraid of) I actually looked forward to the birth during all my pregnancies :) Like Papabear said, "what kind of boneheaded God would curse me with something I enjoy"?
If God meant for childbirth to be a curse on me, he failed miserably. Just like he failed all the other women who are naturally pain-free, who use pain management, or who have c-sections.
Maybe eventually the fundies will realise that this "curse" was just a primitive peoples' way of explaning the nature of childbirth. They couldn't understand it from a medical perspective, so they made up a story about it being a punishment from God.
Someone drag these fools into the 21st century, PLEASE !
Maybe because there are a variety of careers to choose from, many of which do not require hard toil in the field. Maybe because some women enjoy being financially independent. Maybe because they want to contribute economically to their families.
Funny how many men don't have to carry out their curse, especially the ones who don't even work at all, who are stay-at-home dads.
/People can't reverse or dodge either curse, you can't fix what God broke./
Tell that to Donald Trump, Bill Gates, or the many other male billionaires who don't need to sweat in the field to make money. Idiot.
Two funny things about this post:
"Therefore, when a woman chooses a career, she is taking on the man's curse as well as the one she is stuck with"
Working class women generally need to work asshole.
For the large majority of mankinds existance, right through to today in some parts of the world, Hunter/gatherer societies have survived and prospered with far less 'work' than modern society requires.
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