I respect no atheists....
The foundation of atheism/Marxism is that there is No God-—and there has never been any “Science” that can prove their claim-—yet, they say they don’t use “faith”. It is a Big Lie. The basis of their “worldview” —everything they “think” is based on a Big Lie and “faith” in no god.
They—as all Postmodernists/Leftists— are irrational (ideologues).
I love Dr. Berlinski on evolution-—— http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puJnrZW6E14
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If susie gets to imply Marx was evil "because he was an athiest", we get to imply Hitler was evil "because he was a christian". So then logically, belief in this god caused the holocaust. Gott mit uns!
Atheist, Marxist, Science, Faith, Post Modern, Sciecne and Leftist.
All words susie doesn't understand.
Ok, Logic 101. By definition you can not prove a negative unless you have accumulated every bit if data that exists. Logic indicates that those making the positive claim bear the burden of proof, not those making the negative claim. Scientifically, "negative" is the default setting in theories and claims, placing the burden of proof on those who claim God exists, not on those who claim otherwise.
I like "to" put "quotations" around every other "word" because it "makes" me seem "mocking".
God, I missed posts from savagesusie.
Er, no. The foundation of Marxism is that history is the history of class struggle. You fail Marxism 101.
and there has never been any “Science” that can prove their claim-yet, they say they don’t use “faith”.
There is no "Science" that can prove there is no invisible, imperceptible unicorn in my yard. So what you're saying is that, that I need just as much faith to believe that there isn't an invisible, imperceptible unicorn in my yard as to believe that there is one?
I'd like to see a detailed explanation from savagesusie for what she thinks postmodernism is.
"If susie gets to imply Marx was evil "because he was an athiest", we get to imply Hitler was evil "because he was a christian". So then logically, belief in this god caused the holocaust. Gott mit uns!"
She thinks Hitler was part of a gay religion that worshiped Thor.
The only reason Marxism or Communism carries a no religion mandate is because the church may garner followers and speak against the state. Fast forward to America today where we see the Right-Wing politics in bed with fundamentalist religion which speaks against the state.
Now, you might argue that the church in both cases was calling for a better, faith based and free society,,,but you'd be wrong in both cases. In Russia then and America now it's an attempt to gain more power for the church so that they can rule the people/slaves.
At it's basis Communism was a "for the people" concept but it wasn't fully implimented that way and squashed freedoms, just as the Russian Orthodox church did before it.
Churchs in America have been trying to regain that hold on the people that they had when the states were less connected to the federal controls. When the Constitution was ignored and religion was enforced, mostly narrowed to the Bible-Belt states now, the welfare states, where the church recieves tax-free status from the goverment despite violating it's non-political agreements. Your allowed to not only exist, you're taxpayer subsidized and are the viper of chaos in society. As Hitchens said "religion ruins everything".
If the church ever wanted to create a better, free society why is their entire agenda about total obedience, not to God, but the church?
The sciences have evidences, proven by advances and real changes in every aspect of life. The church has ancient superstitious dogma designed only for control with no benefits for the masses. They speak against any other senario for society although history shows nothing but misery and suffering under the Theocratic states.
Pigs fly.
I know they do because some guy said so, thousands of years ago. In fact, he, or somebody else by the same name, wrote it down -- get this; IN A BOOK!
He even had corroboration, as another guy not only said they fly, but there were WITNESSES! Actually, they both claim this, but there seems to be some discrepancy in the number of wits, but no matter. Well, there are several conflicting accounts, but you know how eye witnesses are, heh heh.
And there are those who don't believe this about the pigs. I haven't actually seen it, yet, myself, but I expect to - soon.
And I will fly with the pgs.
The foundation of atheism (cut out nonsensical comparison) it a lack of belief in a god
Fixed it Susie... no claim, no faith needed. Now, about Jesus and the 9th Commandment... :)
Faith isn't absence of proof. It's absence of evidence. We can't prove Elvis is dead, but that doesn't mean we accept his death "on faith". We accept it by inductive reasoning based on ample evidence of his death and a lack of evidence that he isn't.
Likewise, an atheist can't prove God doesn't exist, but that doesn't mean we accept his non-existence "on faith". We accept it by inductive reasoning based on a lack of evidence. There are 40,000 different religions all claiming something different. Are there 40,000 different opinions about the shape of the Washington Monument? The simple fact that people have different opinions about who or what God is, is proof that even if God exists, no one has ever seen Him or knows anything about Him.
uh marxism and atheism are not interchangable you dumb cunt.
nor are postmodernism or leftist, you have no fucking clue what those terms mean so shut up.
berlinski is an idiot, who the fuck cares what he thinks.
I respect Atheists. I have found them to be thoughtful, compassionate, intelligent and decent.
With the exception of the occasional wackadoo, they are wonderful people. The opposite of most christians I've had the misfortune to cross paths with.
Savagesuesie is an 'idiot' . . she believes a 'god' poofed everything because the 'bible' says so. She calls this 'scientific creationism' oops wait the supreme court says you can't teach that in public schools so now it's 'intelligent design'. By an amazing coincidence, science 'proves' via 'intelligent design' that her 'bible' is 'true'.
Uhm... the foundation of Marxism?
Acts 4:
32 And the multitude of them that believed were of one heart and of one soul: neither said any of them that ought of the things which he possessed was his own; but they had all things common.
33 And with great power gave the apostles witness of the resurrection of the Lord Jesus: and great grace was upon them all.
34 Neither was there any among them that lacked: for as many as were possessors of lands or houses sold them, and brought the prices of the things that were sold,
35 And laid them down at the apostles' feet: and distribution was made unto every man according as he had need.
36 And Joses, who by the apostles was surnamed Barnabas, (which is, being interpreted, The son of consolation,) a Levite, and of the country of Cyprus,
37 Having land, sold it, and brought the money, and laid it at the apostles' feet.
Atheist here and definitely no Marxist.
Actually my foundation isn't that there is no god (although I don't think there is one). My foundation is reason. I don't "believe" in anything. I either am knowledgeable in a subject matter or in need of education. It really is quite simple. I have tried very hard to educate myself on the nature of god but it is damn tough because there is no evidence to support such a notion that is, to begin with, ridiculous on its' face.
"Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, and the soul of soulless conditions. It is the opium of the people".
The entire quote. Which most people have not heard. Susie you obviously know nothing of Marx or economic theory for that matter. I would be willing to bet that if I asked you to give even a simple explanation of the relationship between capital and labor that your mouth would hang even farther agape then it probably already does.
You cannot even define a concept as simple as atheism. Your simple little brain would shrivel in terror at attempting to understand the works of Hegel or Marx.
Postmodernity is traditionally leftist but since it's about how people create their social realities through language and how nothing (social, and some crazy variants anything even physical) is really objective you could hypothetically have a right-wing postmodernism. In fact Bush said something along the lines of "when you're done studying the reality we've created we'll have created a whole new one."
I love how fundies always find a way to connect everything they hate in with marxism somehow. Atheism-marxism, Feminism-marxism, homosexuality-marxism, democrats-marxism... it goes on and on.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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