Why is it that when on disagrees with anothers point of view this is referred to as hate?
God has made it clear abortion and homosexality is an abomination, to say it is ok is not love or tolerance it is lying to keep the peace. What is needed is for people to stand for truth and not be intimidated by those who think everyone hates them.
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http://www.thefreedictionary.com/abomination
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/abomination
Why is it that when Christians use the word 'abomination' they don't understand that it's not simply indicative of a 'disgreement' but that it connotes 'disgust', 'loathing', and other wor, indeed, 'hatred' (see the above links). Words have meanings, and using words which indicate that you (or your god) hate something - well, it should be referred to as 'hate'. Aren't many Christians fond of the phrase 'love the sinner, hate the sin?'
"Why is it that when on disagrees with anothers point of view this is referred to as hate?"
Because you are not merely disagreeing with it. You are saying: "abortion and homosexality is an abomination. You are outright condemning it as evil and saying that it cannot be tolerated. Whether or not this constitutes hatred depends on the presentation, but it is further into border region than you like to admit.
"And when he hath made her drink the water, then it shall come to pass, that, if she be defiled, and have done trespass against her husband, that the water that causeth the curse shall enter into her, and become bitter, and her belly shall swell, and her thigh shall rot: and the woman shall be a curse among her people. And if the woman be not defiled, but be clean; then she shall be free, and shall conceive seed."
Numbers 5: 27-28
This is commonly intrpreted as an abortion procedure (willing induction of a miscarriage). So god seems to be less opposed to abortion than you think ;)
There is a lot of hacking & slashing in the OT--particularly against women & children. God condemns abortion? At what point in time--seems to this jewish mind, once you're outta the chute, you're on your own.
And a decent, humane rabbe who hung with a group of guys into his 30's? Never married? Worked with the poor, diseased, out-culture folks? What a concept.
How has "God made it clear"? Because it's in a book written by men? Don't think so. Using your bible to hate isn't nice, but it is typical.
Disagreeing with stupidity isn't hate, but fundies don't get that, seeing as they think they are being persecuted.
"God has made it clear abortion and homosexality is an abomination, to say it is ok is not love or tolerance it is lying to keep the peace."
If that happens to be your god's position then let him defend it.
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Well? Where is he?
Maybe your god doesn't hold such an opinion after all. Or maybe, just maybe he doesn't fucking exist.
Not that your Bible is valid leverage on any issue regardless of what it says, but to play along with you, I dare you to find me a verse where God specifically condemns abortion or states that life begins at conception. These ideas are modern ones and actually run directly opposed to what is stated in the Bible about these topics.
God has made it clear abortion and homosexality is an abomination,
Says Bronze Age men.
to say it is ok is not love or tolerance it is lying to keep the peace.
Feel that Christian "love!"
What is needed is for people to stand for truth and not be intimidated by those who think everyone hates them.
But that's just it. What you're saying is hate.
"What is needed is for people to stand for truth and not be intimidated by those who think everyone hates them. "
Yeah, come on people! Time to stop being intimidated by those persecuted fundies!
Where, exactly, among the genocide, ritual sacrifice, and infanticide does "god" state he thinks abortion is wack, yo? Numbers 5: 27-28, Exodus 21:22-23, Numbers 3:15-16, Numbers 31:15-17, Hosea 13:16, and 2 Samuel 12:14 all state god finds no problem with killing teh baybeez.
Oh yes, no matter what page I turn to in the bible, all i see is anti-abortion verses.. even when god killed every man, woman, child and pregnant woman during the flood..he was protesting his own mass abortion mandate!
Disagreeing with someone's view is one thing. Calling them an evil, intolerable abomination is hatred, pure and simple. Your book of myths doesn't contain any truth, it contradicts itself and science in many places. It never condemns abortion, in fact your god even orders pregnant women's stomachs to be ripped open. I'm not making this up.
Hosea 13:16; The people of Samaria must bear their guilt, because they have rebelled against their God. They will fall by the sword; their little ones will be dashed to the ground, their pregnant women ripped open.
The bible also doesn't really condemn homosexuality either, the verses that you think do were actually poorly translated. Also, the fact that you say people shouldn't feel intimidated by those who thinks everyone hates them is laughable, because fundamentalist Christians seem to have serious persecution complexes.
"God has made it clear abortion and homosexality is an abomination"
...and now for the $64 trillion question: considering Hosea 13:16, and how the story of David & Jonathan is curiously not condemned anywhere within such, why are they 'Abominations'...?
I do not know but see many on alt right and Christians take it as hate that others who disagree with Christianity that they hate it. We don't, we just disagree
God has made it clear abortion and homosexality is an abomination, to say it is ok is not love or tolerance it is lying to keep the peace.
He also said to help the poor, give shelter to refugees, render onto Caesar what is his and god what is his, slaughter entire villages if there is an unbeliever in them, kill unbelievers, not wear mixed fabrics, etc. Funny you ignore all those
What is needed is for people to stand for truth and not be intimidated by those who think everyone hates them.
So when you are trying to intimidate non Christians we should take a stand. Got it
(1) Do you "disagree" when nobody asked for your opinion to start with? Then that's hate speech.
(2) Have you any reason to assert that your particular religious viewpoint is "truth" and others are not? I mean a genuine reason, not "My mommy / my preacher / the bible/ god told me so". If no proof, that's just an opinion, and we already disposed of opinions in item (1).
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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