Schools could be teaching my kids about how to balance a checkbook or how to be wise with their money or how credit cards work or how to be a people person or how to have successful sales skills or the benefits of owning a home --- or the benefits of buying a car instead of leasing, ALL KINDS OF STUFF about real life --- but no....they teach them all about Martin Luther King and saving the rain forests and darwinian evoltuion and global warming -- all kinds of junk that will never do them a dime's bit of good. Most of it is just pure brain rot.
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The knowledge about the global warming and environmentalism will benefit themselves as well as all genrations after them, when the apocalypse for which you so desperately hope for doesn´t appear, the knowledge about Martin Luther King tells them about the racism that was so widespread in your own country only few decades ago.
You sound as if the skills you want the schools to teach are skills that you cannot teach your kids yourself (maybe because you don´t possess these skills ;) )
So you want schools to teach about practical, real-life matters, yet you believe evolution is brain rot.
Yeah, that was my irony meter going again.
Schools do teach those things.
Funny. When I was a public school student in the 1960s and 70s, I was taught all that stuff (except about global warming, which wasn't an issue yet). Learning how to balance a checkbook (in Math class) didn't supplant learning about evolution (in Biology classes). It's not "either/or" except in the narrow minds of fundies.
Kids don't know how credit cards work? Seriously? Not really that difficult. How to be a people person? You skipped those classes, didn't you?
"Most of it is just pure brain rot."
So, you're claiming your brain damage came from public education?
Having graduated from high school comparatively recently, I agreed with most of the things he said; I feared graduation because I didn't know a thing about taxes or handling bills or whatnot. Of course, the stuff about not knowing evolution or the civil rights movement is pure fundy bile.
"All I've ever cared about was video games and they made me a millionaire. So maybe I don't know what the Civil War was, or who invented the helicopter even though I own one, but I did beat The Legend of Zelda before I could walk. I'm thinking about getting metal legs. It's a risky operation, but it'll be worth it."
@Jocelyn:
"Schools could be teaching my kids about how to balance a checkbook or how to be wise with their money or how credit cards work or how to be a people person or how to have successful sales skills or the benefits of owning a home --- or the benefits of buying a car instead of leasing, ALL KINDS OF STUFF about real life"
I'VE SAID THIS MYSELF!! IT'S SO TRUE!
"they teach them all about Martin Luther King and saving the rain forests and darwinian evoltuion and global warming -- all kinds of junk that will never do them a dime's bit of good. Most of it is just pure brain rot."
AND THEN I STRONGLY DISAGREE.
Most of the "real life" stuff can, and should be, learned from parents or other care-givers. SS is just being anti-learning here. He want to create practical, but largely ignorant, people.
"Schools could be teaching my kids about how to balance a checkbook or how to be wise with their money"
They won't have any money, the way the US has dragged the world down with crooked dealing.
Well, I guess some of the stuff in modern schools is kinda unnecessary, like the amounts of details in history classes, but seriously, how can you call scientific theories worthless? They are worth something, for damn sure, and even if they aren't correct, there's an incentive to prove them wrong, right off the bat.
you should be teaching your kids how to do everyday stuff. it's your job as a parent, FFS!!! school is for academic learning, and to socialize kids into their society. parents are for the everyday basics. or do you let the TV raise your kids for you?
Wait, wait, ummm, just a sec...
...Supersport actually has kids??
*begins trembling profusely like a scared little kid who's just seen the resident monster in his closet, then dives behind (pulls a random name out of his hat from among the other posters in this thread) Mister Spak*
Maybe the world is coming to an end, after all!
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it's a relic from the time when fact-finding wasn't at everyone's fingertips, and stuffing a lot of details into kids' brains was the only way to make a few of them stick. now with the ubiquitous presence of teh Intertoobs, they should be teaching research skills plus a lot of conceptual stuff, rather than all those details.
I want to make some logical argument against this nonsense, but it's Supersport. This is the person who claimed that the earth was hollow with a sun and oceans and dinosaurs inside.
Any attempt at debating SS's post would be like discussing physics with Daffy Duck.
I pretty much agree most public schools are pathetic, not because they teach about MLK or evolution, but rather that they cherry pick a few trivial factoids out of each only for the purpose that the kids pass some government test. Public schools have very little to do with education or thinking and everything to do with training and obedience.
Half-a-point: I didn't know how to balance a checkbook until my friend T-bone taught me about seven months back.
But knowing about science and environmentalism and proper social relations and history will benefit both the current generation and future generations.
"Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it" means nothing to you, does it? You fundies, with your hard-on for death, don't care about future generations because you are all waiting for that imaginary Rapture, so could care less about environmental issues, or global warming, or ethnic tolerance.
Just FOAD.
It's called Home Economics, and the only place I've heard of that being taught is public school - and yes, that was alongside that "junk" you're whining about. I don't know of any Catholic school that ever did.
"Schools could be teaching my kids about how to balance a checkbook or how to be wise with their money or how credit cards work or how to be a people person or how to have successful sales skills or the benefits of owning a home --- or the benefits of buying a car instead of leasing, ALL KINDS OF STUFF about real life"
To a certain extent, they do. I participated in a year wide life lessons styled class for an entire week to understand certain facts about life. A schools main objective is to provide your child with an education. Schools believe that you will help them with simple things like that. Oh and it isn't a good idea to teach your child to use a credit card. A direct debit card would be a much better option with its inability to throw you 10Gs into debt.
"..they teach them all about Martin Luther King and saving the rain forests and darwinian evoltuion and global warming -- all kinds of junk that will never do them a dime's bit of good. Most of it is just pure brain rot."
Sigh. You have no idea how important things like those are to comprehending the world. MLK teaches us about equality and understanding, Saving rain forests teaches about using what we have sparingly and properly without waste, Darwinian evolution is taught to teach us about the similarities and differences between us all and how we all have the same core beneath our varying exteriors, and global warming teaches our kids about the way the world functions in terms of pollution and what we are doing to it.
Everything your child is taught has been checked to the highest degree to ensure your child will be a significantly well adjusted child in the world.
How do I know this? Simple, I have just finished schooling and I can analyze and understand the reasons for every single thing I was taught at school.
Hasn't SS heard? Saving money is unpatriotic! You must spend if your a good American! Max out those Credit cards, get a subprime mortgage! It's you patriotic duty!!!!11!!1
Actually I agree that more life skills should be taught in school. But then he goes off the rails in typical SS fashion.
Although SS raises a good point to begin with, it is also a grossly obvious one. Commerce and Economics should not be optional subjects, such skills are essential and should be compulsory.
However it also highlights the obvious point that the education system is not of a sufficient standard on many fronts and that is often due to religious fundamentalism and the conservative groups that run the Education Departments.
Actually, I do kind of wish schools would teach you more about how to manage money and credit cards, etc. It's pretty important and they never taught it in my school O.o
But they should teach other stuff too though including evolution.
The hell of it is, I agree with the first half! I believe that financial literacy is extremely important and extremely undertaught. However, students also need the stuff that supersport dismisses as "just pure brain rot" and "junk". Students need to know how to treat the earth that sustains them; they need to know their history. Just because supersport does not like what Martin Luther King did, apparently, does not make his contribution "junk".
Also, I wonder if she considers what agriculture students learn about sustainable practices to be "brain rot," even as she prepares her dinner.
It never fails to amaze me when one of these right-wing crackpots goes on a rant about the public school system. Do they seriously not know what goes on at a public school or what's taught in a public school? Where the hell do they get their ideas about it??
That said, economics and business classes were both requirements to graduate at the high school I attended, and accounting classes were offered as electives (which I took). You lose, good day.
Usually, the checkbook comes with basic arithmetic, as in those problems we solved in elementary school. "Supersport has $200. He must tithe 10% to the millionaire preacher on TV if he wants to be raptured. Will he have enough left over for rent and utilities?"
Maybe I went to school for much longer than your kids, but I learned all those things, both the ones you think good and the ones you think bad. OK, not "global warming" so much, we hadn't realized it was such a huge threat back in the 1980s.
Learning how to stop "gloal warming" and saving the rainforests will indeed do them much good, as that will ensure that they have a habitable planet when they grow up.
Supersport: "my kids"
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