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Materialism is the belief that all of the universe may be reduced to physical materials. I am sure you know what scientific means. So the two together constitute a view that the only truths we can know are those verified by science on materials. I am not aware of atheists who argue against this.

Regardless, you have admitted above - because you believe these things represent reality, as a minimum, the following 3 beliefs on atheism (all I need is one):

1. There is no God.
2. Evolutionary naturalism is true.
3. Objective meaning or purposes to life do not exist.

Nice core doctrine - thank you!

"I did a search of how many times you have accused other people of confusing moral ontology (existence) with moral epistemology (knowledge). and the amount of times you say it is shocking."

Now, let me see if I understand you. You went through all the trouble to make a search to see how many times I have made this point (so many atheists, so little time :-)), yet, you could have spent that time educating yourself on this issue. But, I am supposed to be your teacher and feed you milk from a bottle, do I have that correct?!? And you guys are the "smart" and "rational" ones. smh

<sigh> Moral ontology deals with the existence or non-existence of objective moral values and duties. Do they even exist? (The overwhelming majority of scholarly atheists across two centuries say "no" if there is no God.) Moral epistemology deals with knowledge, how we can come to know these objective moral values and duties - if they exist. Like so many atheists, you divert to epistemology before you establish ontology, but that is, obviously, incorrect: you cannot talk about how we come to know "these things" if "these things" do not exist. Mere absurdism. And that leads into the ice cream flavors and the fact that atheism is unlivable and that atheists unwittingly acknowledge God's existence when they assert objective moral values and duties.

It's weird: atheists spend so much time talking about things they do not believe in. They claim to not believe in God, but they spend a lot of time talking about Him and how "evil" He and His followers are. They claim to not believe in objective moral values and duties (or the preponderance of scholarly atheists do anyway), then they use objective moral terms like "evil," "deranged," "moral monsters," etc to describe Christians and the God we follow but atheists do not believe in. Then, they shout how "rational" they are. Very strange indeed.

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