I obviously share your conclusion that young women serving on a jury is
a very vulnerable, potentially damaging experience we should be able to
shield them from. Let me share some thoughts of how we can protect our
daughters from this particular emotional/mental threat.
You noted that "never allowing her to become a registered voter" is
something you have learned the hard way. This is definitely one of the
ways we express our "individuality" in our culture. Early in the
republic's history, only heads of households voted. Sadly, today even in
very conservative households most of us have embraced the philosophic
underpinnings of the women's suffrage movement. Of course women should
vote! Therefore even Christian couples occasionally "split" their vote,
canceling one another's vote.
But since women are allowed to vote in our society, doesn't this mean
Christians must compromise with the cultural mores and have our wives
vote, so we can double our impact? This assumes that God NEEDS our help
in appointing His choice of leaders (Romans 13:1 makes it clear that all
"authorities that exist are appointed by God"). Especially if
registering to vote creates greater vulnerability for our families,
perhaps we should rethink this question.
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If God doesn't need your vote because he's going to appoint who he wants anyway, then he has robbed mankind of their free will and democracy is a lie.
Although, that's the least of the crazy shit in this quote
You're absolutely right it's safer your wives and daughters not to vote. With God on your side you can be sure a righteous leader will be elected in any case. In fact, there's really no need for you to vote either, come to think of it.
This is a fundie worth persecuting!
If true persecution comes against Christians, they can hold him and fundies like him responsible. Christianity already has a black eye because of people like you.
Those are fighting words Jonny. Zip it!
How did this go from jury duty to not letting women vote? I must have missed that as I waded through all the mindless, bigoted rubbish this guy was spouting.
"You noted that "never allowing her to become a registered voter" is
something you have learned the hard way."
Once they reach 18 (or whatever the voting age is there) you have no say in the matter. None what-so-fucking-ever!
Barefoot and pregnant, that's the key, Jon boy. Don't let those uppity women voters cast aspersions on your masculinity. If a theocracy was good enough during the bronze age, it's good enough for us in the 21st century.
First: I thought that some states select who is on a jury by who files taxes.Do you think maybe your daughter shouldn't pay taxes either?
Second: I'm torn between standing up for womens rights to vote, and letting this guy go on so that women who follow their insane controlling father or husband don't give the conservatives more votes.
This guy is a moron. If only ONLY the head of a christian household is voting, than we lose to heathen households were everyone is voting.
No, a helpmeet must consult her husband and then vote for whomever he tells her too.
If we limit our votes, we might face ourselves with a society that openly accepts gays, taxes churches, forces abortions, makes us go to mosque services for "cultural diversity," removes any standards of decency from our television sets (turn on the television and see humans having sex with animals), community dancing, requires a "christian tax" to further drive christians underground.
No sir, I don't want them to take women's right to vote. I want them to take non-christian's right to vote - and THEN you can take women's votes.
Let me share some thoughts of how we can protect our
daughters from this particular emotional/mental threat.
Am I the only one who thought this line was particularly hilarious? "My thoughts on women's suffrage, let me show them to you." No, just me? Okay then.
No Johnathan, please do not share your insane misogynist beliefs with us, no one gives two shits. And please don't share your thoughts on Yaoi.
So, they can't drive, they can't be part of a jury, they can't vote. Do women have a life of their own in your little world?, do they have responsabilities?. If so, have they free will?, CAN THEY SIN?
Romans 13:1 makes it clear that all "authorities that exist are appointed by God"
Is that why all the fundies were out there protesting the impeachment of the God-appointed US president Bill Clinton? [/sarcasm]
<< First: I thought that some states select who is on a jury by who files taxes.Do you think maybe your daughter shouldn't pay taxes either? >>
SapphireWolf: Of course not. She surely is not supposed to earn money by working outside the home, and her father or husband should be the only one in the family to own any real property, so what would she pay taxes on?
~David D.G.
I can't imagine all Americans are this stupid. Are they? Well, I suppose if you stop your wife and female children from interacting with the real world they won't realise what a total d***head you are. Everyone else can get on with living. Shame that these women won't be able to. I am sure that they would have a great deal to offer the wider community if they were allowed to.
Voting simply means that you hypocrites have zero faith in God's ability to put an acceptable pastor into the pulpit of power.
Come election day, all you need is to pray. God's Will be done.
Yeah, and in the beginning, only wealthy, well-established landowners could vote. I'm guessing that leaves you out, Jonny.
And my mom was the only person on a jury willing to keep a dangerous man off the street. If she hadn't hung that jury and sent the guy to a second one that convicted him, he'd have killed somebody else with drunk driving. The only person on the jury with enough medical experience to know the defense was bullshit (they claimed that blood would turn into alcohol in storage) was a woman . Would you like your daughters on the road with a drunk guy, or would you rather that a woman gets him behind bars?
Misogyny is downright idiotic on so many levels...
sorry... never "allow" her to become a registered voter?
Wouldn't that be illegal? to prevent someone legally able to vote from registering?
Fuck you.
And fuck the horse you rode in on.
The rest of that article is so unnerving I don't quite know where to start. Note where he says it's not "healthy" for young ladies to drive, he will not allow her to get a license like her brother, and he wants her future husband to tell her whether or not she's allowed to drive.
I'm also pretty damn sure it's fucking ILLEGAL to prevent your adult daughter from voting or serving on a jury. Way to keep your kid a mental infant for the rest of her life, you weirdo.
How is your wife or daighter going to leave the house if they are kept properly clad in an apron and with no shoes or socks. ?
Christians must obey the will of God lest they forfeit their chance of heaven.
Yes, women are delicate creatures who must be sheilded from the more unpleasent sides of life.
oh wait ... sorry but No. Women must learn of sex , and what a nasty, wet, squishy thing it is oh wait... that was the 1800s.
Confused?
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