[Regarding a possible "Internet ID."]
I see it as a sign because the Hebrew letter "vav," which is "w" in our language is equivellent to the number 6...a theory could be made that "www" = "666" and therefore the future Mark of the Beast COULD be a personal Internet ID for all people.
89 comments
...a personal Internet ID for all people.
Except that's not what Obama was proposing. Not even close.
He proposed there be a national database for security purposes (ie. passwords, security certificates, etc.). That's not even remotely similar.
Let me ask you this: How could a personal Internet ID system be implemented when not everyone in the country 1) uses computers and 2) gets on the Internet?
That theory would be wrong. The Hebrew numbering system doesn't use place value. Three sixes are 18, not 666.
(By the way, 18 is considered a good number, since the letters in the word for "life" add up to 18.)
Hebrew alphabet fail. Vav is V, not W. And even if it were, I thought that the number of the beast was six hundred threescore and six, so a representation of three consecutive sixes is not the same as the number of the beast.
Or, it could just be that "www" stands for World Wide Web.
*edit* Drat, Percy beat me to it. But it never ceases to amaze me that crazy fundies claim that the internet is evil and Satanic... on the internet.
Free hint to non-technogeeky Americans: It's a widely known fact that some other countries already have a national electronic ID card infrastructure (not much used in the Web, obviously, but used in other services). The sky hasn't fallen in those countries yet. If you want to demonstrate that electronic IDs would make the sky fall in America, you need to revise the arguments to fit the facts at hand (to wit, you need to explain why the sky will fall in America and not in other countries). Thank you.
Well, this is more conspiracy theory than fundie. Anyway, I see this guy's got his confirmation bias in full swing. And he's got the damn numbers he's basing his assumptions on wrong in the first place. Nice going.
Oh we got trouble,
(Puts on tinfoil hat and jumps out window)
Dani, I hate to tell you this but the Devil doesn't really exist. He was simply made up by horrific men in an attempt to scare little children so that when they grew up they would give all their money to the church.
On another note, I always liked the name Dani. What do you look like?
"666"
It's actually 616, due to a mistranslation in the Bible. Next question.
"and therefore the future Mark of the Beast COULD be a personal Internet ID for all people."
IP addresses. One way of identifying users on the internet. Next question. Oh, one more thing, regarding IP addresses. Whilst such are tracked by the FBI, CIA & NSA, the most concentrated tracking of such is done here in the UK, at GCHQ. With their comprehensive methods of tracing & intercepting any telecommunications, they have access to any and all forms of communications traffic (especially the internet) via their supercomputers. A friend of mine has a contract with the Home Office & MI6 to work on said supercomputers four times a year (he had to undergo security checks, sign the Official Secrets Act etc; he even has an MI6 operative supervising him whilst he works on such). My friend is an Atheist.
Like I say, GCHQ can access all telecommunications. And (because they supply most civilised democratic countries with anti-terrorism data - including the USA), they have the legal authority to do so.
image
Be afraid. Be very afraid.
"I see it as a sign because the Hebrew letter "vav," which is "w" in our language is equivellent to the number 6...a theory could be made that "www" = "666" and therefore the future Mark of the Beast COULD be a personal Internet ID for all people."
Damn. And here I thought the Mark of the Beast was the RFID chip they were going to implant in everyone. Or the tattoo they were going to force us all to get. Or the All Seeing Eye on the dollar bill. Or any number of other equally silly shit people like you come up with.
How ironic that this was posted on www .raptureready.com?
Besides, we all know that the mark of the beast is the 666 found in UPC codes.
It's true! When a bunch of Satan's scientists at CERN were discussing what to call their new hypertext system, names like "The Information Mine" were tossed around. But then somebody said "you know, vav is the Hebrew equivalent of W and in Hebrew gematria it has a value of 6, so we should come up with something with the acronym WWW to secretly encode an encomium to our Satanic master. Hmmm. Got it! World Wide Web!"
Can you also use your hypothesis to explain your social security number, your driving licence number, your car registration, your bank account number, your credit card number and your passport number?
Actually, now that I think about it, I'm pretty sure you don't have a passport.
@Anon-e-moose
The doughnut is just three miles down the road from me. You should have seen it when the site was being excavated. You could look all the way down into the central well, past the sub-levels, past the foundations and down to the secret underground railway line. ;-)
Dani, 'at m'daberit b'Ivrit? Ani omer 'lo'.
If you did speak Hebrew, then you would know that the sixth letter of the Hebrew alphabet can also be pronounced as 'V'. Let me take this ridiculous argument even further into the realms of nonsense.
In Roman numberals v = 5. 'A' is alpha in Greek which = 1; and v again = 6. so what we really have with Vav is 515. Now Latin and Greek do not have 'w' but instead use a consonantal 'u', and since in Latin 'u' is a form of 'v', so no difference.
Now lets try a trick with your pseudonym
D = Daleth = 4
Total = 69. This I hold tells us a lot about your sex life. Also, since there is one of the three 6s in this Gematria, you must be one third tainted with Satanic influence, you little devil!
OK, it just goes to show that with the use of the numerical value of Hebrew letters all kinds of idiocies can be arrived at. Besides, to be consistent, you would have to translate world wide web into Hebrew and start all over again. Yesh shiurim ivrim 'al www! LOL
MZL TOV!
The fun (read: irritating) thing about numerology is that it holds to no solid rules, and any number can be manipulated to mean pretty much anything. A theory could be made that 1=666 (if you just multiply 1 by 666, you get the number of the beast! Scary!); a theory could be made about anything, but most of those theories would be absolute crap.
Your driver's license is a real-world ID, and it's not the Mark of the Beast (although maybe it is, to Ruptured Retards). An Internet ID would probably be akin to having a driver's license/state ID, only in cyberspace.
Y'know, I've always been of the opinion that being on the Internet's a lot like being out in public, btw.
Equally plausible:
You do realise that the world wide web accounts only for a portion of the whole internet traffic. with so many services that don't operate over html channels, this theory of yours is a bit shaky.
However, it may interest you to know, and perhaps spook you further out of your superstitious pants, that the 'www' component of a typical website address is called a 'host'. Booooooo!
Later in the the thread they start blabbing about how all websites need www to function. Well no, www is an old standard (not requirement) that many websites don't even use anymore. If you do a Google search you'll find articles on why the standard was established, its sort of interesting.
But then, these guys aren't interested in anything that contradicts their apocalyptic worldview.
@#1247604
The use of 'www' as a hostname was never a standard. Back in 1995 I was going to call my organisation's first web server 'dystopia', but my boss overruled me.
With hindsight I'd have to say he was right.
"a theory could be made that "www" = "666" and therefore the future Mark of the Beast COULD be a personal Internet ID for all people."
There's sites with just 'http://xyz ' in their URL. As with that of Ruptured Retards, for example:
http://rr-bb.com/
Destroyed your own argument, much?
@fb
"to be fair - Vav was probably pronounced "w" in ancient Hebrew"
I'd bet that 9 out of 10 Raptards use Windows. The files for the sound effects used within Windows (95, 98, ME, W2K, XP, Vista, 7) are of the .WAV format.
Just pointing that out, RR...!
>:D
As a little-known pygmy of African/Irish descent, I can tell you categorically that, based on the cosmic vibes in Dani D's post, Jesus is coming. One can almost feel the wind rushing past ones ears as one soars majestically to one's saviour's groin as one reads Dani's post.
@Old Viking
"667 is the number of the beast's older brother."
@#1247464
"668 is the number of the nieghbor of the beast."
999: Number of the Australian Beast.
Feel free to ad your own, ladies and germs...!
Came to mind, i'd like to see this guys face, when he someday accidentally spots a web address starting with www1 or www2 etc. That'll get him confused.
"OMG... teh debbil iz multiplying! It's the end day WHAAAARGARBL!"
Sigh.
Yet another ignoramous who thinks the internet and the world wide web are the same thing, being utterly unaware of the fact that in a typical session of internet use, you're using a hell of a lot more than just port 80.
That doesn't make sense. They had different ways of representing 6, 60 and 600. Since it ends at 400, two numbers are combined to represent 500 and above. So first you'd need a four letter word not a three letter one. Second they'd not be the same letter due to different letters being used for 6, 60 and a two letter 600. In other words, you fail (again). Assumptions are the mother of all fuck-ups. Remember that next time.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
To post a comment, you'll need to Sign in or Register . Making an account also allows you to claim credit for submitting quotes, and to vote on quotes and comments. You don't even need to give us your email address.
