Who astral travels? Any non believers who care to share are very pathetic creatures who have no creative mind. I am sorry for you. We are having all the fun while you are denying the existence of your training wheels. Please, we dont want you out there yet!
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I don't think this is fundy. I think when she talks about non-beliievers, she is talking about belief in astral travel. When someone asked on another thread how to get rid of religion she answered, "religion is simply one person telling another person that he is on the wrong road to the same place. Get there any way you want, just get there." Sounds pretty tame to me. Now the astral travel thing is still pretty wacked out, but not fundy.
My 12th level wizard enjoys astral traveling. Astral Spell can be used more effectively to memorize another Cone of Cold .
I don't astral travel myself, I just steal the bodies of those who do.
What? You leave your body sitting around unattended and that's what happens.
Well, I'm off to cash in at the organ bank.
This is an old thread but something that may merit an additional comment (I fell on it using the "random" feature).
I'm familiar with sleep paralysis and some of the strong short experiences it can produce. It's also hypothesized that "the mare" and some experiences lived by people obsessed with demons or aliens are related. And lucid dreaming, where a dream seems more vivid and the person has a bit more conscious control on what can be done. The first can produce short experiences that appear to be in "physical reality", but don't really allow any kind of true travel, communication or perception ability. The second, like dreams, also happens in the mind. It's interesting and entertaining, but no evidence exists of actual collective realms, or of access to spiritual realms or akashic records, etc.
People being gullible, at times some feared that another power might possibly benefit or develop "paranormal" tools and methods. And some experiments attempted to verify if remote viewing was a possibility. Such programs failed but also confirmed that it was human fantasy and mind delusions. Others explored it, like Moroe. The results of the experiments he published have not been convincing or satisfactorily reproduced by others and some hypotheses it rested on are considered pseudoscientific.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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