"Basically, the theory is that some 15-30 billion years ago, there was nothing. Then, all of a sudden, BANG. All that is exploded into existance from nothing.
Since then, the universe has been on a steady course of random evolution. According to the theory, this random course has come to the point where we are now.
Even in the most basic explanation (as I have given here) it is flawed. One of the fundamental laws of physics is that matter can neither be created nor destroyed. This whole theory assumes that matter spontaneously created itself.
On the other hand, God is the author of the laws of Physics. He can do miracles, and He gave us the explanition that he created the universe."
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One of the fundamental laws of physics is that matter can neither be created nor destroyed. This whole theory assumes that matter spontaneously created itself.
While that may be true for the laws of Newtonian physics, it is completely possible under some theories of Quantum Physics.
Heave you fat ass off your head and start reading the actual material. Otherwise you'll just end up sounding, and being, dumber then already are.
This make no sence .If god created matter then what was god made out of
. Hydrogen, with only one proton, is the simplest element.
Basically, the theory is that some six thousand years ago, there was nothing. Then, all of a sudden, POOF; God appears. All that is is popped into existance(sic) by God.
"Even in the most basic explanation (as I have given here) it is flawed."
You bet it is, Bro. Stinky! Why don't you try giving the CORRECT explanation, which won't be flawed?
Brother Randy shows that he has the same knowledge of the "Big Bang" that he does of American History, none! However, that doesn't stop him from showing his ignorance by expounding at length on his (made-up) facts of both.
^^ Exactly, he is saying that something cannot come from nothing...and then he turns around and tells us that the Invisible Man in the Sky created something from nothing.
Cognitive dissonance, anyone?
(I'm not going to say anything about relativity or quantum physics here because unlike Randy, I am honest enough to admit that I don't know enough about them to comment...my knowledge of these topics is rudimentary at best.)
Actually, the big bang didn't start from nothing.
And just because we presume that something cannot come from nothing doesn't mean that it doesn't. And just because it might have to come from something doesn't mean it comes from a creator god.
Matter cannot be created, and for that matter, neither can humans. Thanks for destroying your own argument, ImaSaved
No one knows where the universe's initial energy/matter came from. Scientists admit that. It's overstating things to say it came from "nothing", though. We don't know that either.
This has nothing to do with evolution or the question of whether humans are descended from non-human ancestors, which is really the only question of interest to fundies. Even if scientists admitted some god or gods created the Big Bang, that has no bearing on whether there was one or many gods, a succession of them, whether they still exist, etc. So worrying about the source of the Big Bang is theologically useless to Christians. Unlike the Bro, Aquinas would have realized this 800 years ago.
By the way, the Big Bang is but ONE theory to describe the creation of the universe. It is scientifically accepted, but does that mean its true? I'm not saying your view is right, but your assumption is that all atheists and people able of logical thought say the Big Bang is the only way the universe was created. I don't know of any other theories, but there surely will be other.
Hey, ever tried reading up more on the Big Bang? And also, I take people whoar eable to spell properly more seriously than the average fanatic.
If your god authored the laws of physics, why doesn't "his book" explain the laws of physics in any detail or with any accuracy?
Did your god anticipate our need for electricity? Should've, but didn't. Intelligent people like Faraday, Volta, Franklin et al had to "play god" for this beneficence.
I'm not as worried about this being a cult on the brink anymore. Spouting stuff that obviously wrong must lower his credibility in the eyes of teens with the slightest faculty of reason. David Koresh had to have been smarter than this.
Thanks for easing my worries, Randy.
If God(TM) is the author of the laws of physics, why has he been so spectacularly bad at revealing them to you, O all-knowing Bro.?
While you're at it, find out why he hasn't revealed the laws of English spelling to you, either.
Even in the most basic explanation (as I have given here) it is flawed. One of the fundamental laws of physics is that matter can neither be created nor destroyed.
That wouldn't have been a bad argument oh, say, one hundred years ago. E=MC^2, old boy. Do try to keep up.
"On the other hand, God is the author of the laws of Physics. He can do miracles, and He gave us the explanition (sic) that he created the universe."
Which explains why the Bible is replete with explanations of the Laws of Physics.
This raises a common question. If God created the universe, then who created god?
Simple fact is this: nothing, because supernatural theories dating back 4000 years are flawed by superstition and ignorance.
Unfortunately Bro Randy, Genesis doesn't predict the cosmic microwave background radiation does it? Big Bang theory does.
It doesn't matter how much you stick your fingers in your ears and yell "God Did It!", it doesn't change the fact that Genesis is useless for making any kind of prediction with.
Bob Smith:
By the way, you're not the infamous Normal Bob Smith, are you?
Bob Smith:
By the way, you're not the infamous Normal Bob Smith, are you?
Basically, the theory is that from all eternity until 4004 B.C., God sat around doing nothing. Then He decided to create the universe. But since He kept getting it wrong, He had to expel Adam and Eve from the Garden of Eden, flood the whole world, give a bunch of laws of which He would later rescind some, and then temporarily sacrifice Himself to Himself to save us from a hell that He Himself had created for us.
That makes so much sense, Dr. Whom! I truly beleive that is the clear and concise truth. Anyone who disagrees with me is a horrible person! They are, because God said so and God also told me he never lies, and of course God is perfect (which he told me) so he could never lie.
And religion says that an immortal and all powerful being who has existed for ever got bored one day and then, after existing forever in nothingness, decided to create the world six thousand years ago in only a week?
And why did he need to rest if he's all powerful?
What was he doing for the rest of the time, sitting twiddling his thumbs?
And if he's all knowing, why did he bother creating people and giving them freewill, and create evil knowing that he would destroy it? Why didn't he just make everyone mindless automatons?
A singularity started to expand in the Big Bang. It already contained all matter in the universe, just extremely well compacted.
There is nothing random about evolution, and for it to happen, there must be life. Most of the Universe seems devoid of life.
Matter can't be created, but God created the Universe? Are you even reading what you're writing, Randy?
"This whole theory" is not one theory, but three different ones at least, in different fields such as cosmology, biology and physics.
" some 15-30 billion years ago,"
Fail everything much, liar?
Hey, everybody! Stupidity on T4C! Somebody denigrating, misrepresenting, ignoring, and flat out lying about science in an attempt to prove 'goddidit'!
(As if I needed to say that :) )
> whoooo my site attacked T4C! Them fuckers are down!
For the record, that was an extremely dumb thing to do. You've made us all look bad.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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