The plane that crashed in New York (Hudson) river. Some passengers prayed. Others read the flight safety card. Guess which was more useful?
I'm going for the praying as the plane did not sink and no-one lost their lives and no injuries were reported. Everyone is hailing it as a miracle, against all odds etc. The flight saftey card would have no power over the stability of the plane in the water, etc., etc.
Thank God for those that prayed and thank God for protecting all of them. God loves us all, even if we all don't love him.
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I love the subtext that if no one had prayed, god would've just let everyone die. Like god was napping on the couch and got woke up by all the prayers:
"ZZZZZ... huh? What the fuck? A plane going down in New York? Quick, imbue the pilot with some plane handling skills. Safely in the Hudson, you say? Job well done everybody, I'm going back to sleep. I told you, I'll get to the millions of people starving and with malaria later..."
And where the fuck was your "god" when all those people were praying on the planes hijacked on 9/11?
Thank God for those that prayed and thank the pilot's quick thinking and skill for protecting all of them.
Fixed, because NO UNEXPLAINED PHENOMENA OCCURRED. Planes float (for quite a while), pilots with the right training can crash-land exactly as this one did, and God should not get credit for something that was entirely the pilot's doing.
Except there's no proof that the praying did anything either, because we would need to have the same kind of plane, with a pilot of equal skill, crash into the Hudson without anyone praying.
"'Some passengers prayed. Others read the flight safety card. Guess which was more useful?'
I'm going for the praying as the plane did not sink and no-one lost their lives and no injuries were reported."
I'm guessing that those that read the safety card did just as much good as those who prayed. there were also five serious injuries, and 78 people in all were treated by medical personnel, 24 of them in hospitals. Guess god was out of practice. The pilot, Sullenberger, said, "One way of looking at this might be that for 42 years, I've been making small, regular deposits in this bank of experience: education and training. And on January 15 the balance was sufficient so that I could make a very large withdrawal." Guess he forgot the fact that god was flying that day, huh?
However, just think of the tragedy that would have occurred if the pilot had decided to pray instead of learning to fly gliders. Or if he had decided to pray instead of doing everything in his training and experience to ditch the plane on the river. Or if the folks driving the boats had decided to pray instead of get people out of the water.
Yeah. Prayer is the way to go.
"I'm going for the praying as the plane did not sink and no-one lost their lives and no injuries were reported."
Due to both pilot skill and the engineering of the plane. Neither of which were gotten from, nor benefited by, prayer.
"Everyone is hailing it as a miracle, against all odds etc."
Hyperbole.
"The flight saftey card would have no power over the stability of the plane in the water, etc., etc."
No, but the engineering of the plane surely did.
"Thank God for those that prayed and thank God for protecting all of them. God loves us all, even if we all don't love him."
Somehow I have the feeling you'd be saying something eerily similar to this even if the plane had been completely destroyed and everyone on board killed. Your god apparently gets all the credit and none of the blame no matter the outcome.
Q> The plane that crashed in Detroit (Northwest Flight 255). Some passengers prayed. Others read the flight safety card. Guess which was more useful?
A> None of the above. The only one who survived was a four year old girl, who, I'm pretty sure did neither.
Studies have shown that you have a 40% better chance of surviving a plane crash if you're sitting in the rear of the plane instead of the front. Do people sitting in the rear tend to pray more? Or does God just like the people in the backs of planes more? In that case, how come He leaves them stuffed in the back with the screaming babies instead of letting them suck up champagne and eat with real silverware in First Class?
and the planes on 9/11 and many other planes all full of good people praying their asses off got totally ignored because?
this is why you can't have this all powerful benevolent dude in the sky to credit with everything good. he has to answer for the bad he didn't stop. there's a shit load of that.
*facepaw*
You. Ignorant. Twit.
"The flight safety card would have no power over the stability of the plane in the water, etc., etc. "
The imaginary spook would have no power over anything. At least the flight safety card has useful information.
I'm going for the praying as the plane did not sink and no-one lost their lives and no injuries were reported.
Yep, and those engineers in Toulon who designed and built the Airbus A319 had nothing to do with it; nor did Capt. Sullenburger's impeccable piloting skills. Actually, one could blame your god for flying those geese into the Airbus' flight path in the first place, without which the entire incident would have taken place.
Contrary to your imagination, not "everyone is hailing it as a miracle, against all odd, etc." Although flight safety cared have little power over stability, the wings and the air trapped in them DO have lots of stability in the water. And prevent the aircraft from sinking too.
Remember folks, God sees all, and knows all, but He won't save your life, no matter how good a person you are, unless you ask Him to.
Perhaps the pilot should have started praying to? It's very lucky that god still chose to have the plane crash land safely when the pilot was totally ignoring god, and many of the passengers had the odacity to re familierise themselves with the emergency infomation, when they should have been begging for their lives. God likes it when you beg, he gets off on that shit.
If someone paid Capt Sully enough, he could easily do it again, I have no doubt.
People die every day, some maybe because god supposedly loves them, some maybe because god supposedly hates them, and some maybe because god simply doesn't give a shit.
The survivors escaped a disaster, and Colonic here wants to crank up the fatuous guilt trip.
Nice.
"The flight saftey card would have no power over the stability of the plane in the water, etc."
Somehow, muttering nonsense to their invisible friend helped...
Every time you pray, aren't you petitioning god to change his divine plan? If he exists (protip: he doesn't), how dare a cockroach question this?
The only one that deserved to be prayed to on that flight was the pilot
So there wasn't a single theist aboard those planes which crashed without survivors, like the Air Flance flight which went down off Brazil in 2009?
Yeah, right. (Me, I'd take the safety card. It's handy to know where the nearest exit is, just in case I survive the crash and a heavenly finger doesn't suddenly appear to point the way.)
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