God made Adam and Eve perfect.Ever since they sinned,EVERYONE is born with the sinful nature from Adam.That is what we are born with.God did not give you or anyone else a sodomite gene,that is nonsense.
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Yup, made them so perfect that they did nothing wrong, as long as you don't count being tempted and eating from the tree of knowledge when god said not to.
As long as you ignore that, they were perfect.
Nope, Adam and Lilith were perfect.
According to the jewish Midrasch Lilith was the first woman, created the same way as Adam, from Earth.
But Lilith wouldn´t want to play the devout part in the relationship with Adam and accept Adam as her master (but instead thought that they both were equal as they were made from the same material) therefore (after Adam complained about this fact) god replaced her with the more naive and featherbrained (but also more submissive) Eve.
We all know what happened next ;)
Why would a perfect man have nipples?
In fact, since Eve was supposedly made from Adam's rib and not the other way around, why would Eve have nipples?
In double fact, since they were sinless, perfect and immortal why would either of them have any primary or secondary sexual characteristics at all? Why give Adam balls and Eve breasts and a womb if not because you know they will father children after the planned fall?
Eating the fruit isn't the 'original sin', it's the original frame-up.
Actually one may point out the source of sin is God rather than "Adam and Eve".
1. The ability to tell the difference between right and wrong is knowledge.
2. The "original" sin was disobeying "God".
3. So how do you know its a sin to disobey when you do not have knowledge?
4. If you don't have knowledge, you are like a child. A newborn child will listen to anything his adults tell him to.
5. God did not tell man to not listen to satan...
6. Therefore Satan telling man to do something inherently wrong is not the fault of man.
7. One may also point out that if the tree of knowledge was so fucking forbidden, leaving it lying around where any damn fool could eat it is a stupid idea. Therefore It would be ultimately God's fault.
8. Indeed god is "completely" at fault since every step of this problem is completely done due to his interference. The equivalent would be leaving a knife at crawling infant level, then leaving John Wayne Gacy to babysit your children... THEN Whining when one of your children turns up dead... Therefore (biblical) God should he exist is either a moron who is unfit of any prayers or a total ass who leaves dangerous things around children...
So...wait...
He let us inherit Adam's sinful nature, and this somehow is evidence that we could not possibly be genetically predisposed towards homosexuality (also, a "sin")? That sounds completely backwards to me...
"God made Adam and Eve perfect.Ever since they sinned,EVERYONE is born with the sinful nature from Adam."
If you are claiming that a "sinful" gene can be genetically transmitted from the parents to their offspring, wouldn't this apply to Jesus' mother Mary as well?
I see Spak and aaa are tag-teaming again. Can they or anyone else point to peer-reviewed publications that demonstrate a strong genetic component in homosexual behavior? Although its something the homosexual community is quick to claim (because then they can represent opposition to homosexuality as akin to racisim), the fact is that no such evidence has ever been found.
Also, Eden, its Midrash.
So, if they were perfect, why weren't they intelligent? Intelligence is seen as a desirable quality; therefore, to be perfect, you must have intelligence. Yet they did not know right from wrong, Adam complained about Lilith actually considering herself to be his equal, Eve ate the apple, and Adam willingly ate it, too.
Your entire post is nonsense.
If Adam and Eve were so perfect, why were they fooled by a talking snake?
Maybe you should check what the Sodomites sins really were.
Ezekiel 16:49
This was the iniquity of thy sister Sodom, pride, fulness of bread, and abundance of idleness ... neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy.
Jeremiah 23:14
I have seen also in the prophets of Jerusalem an horrible thing: they commit adultery, and walk in lies: they strengthen also the hands of evildoers, that none doth return from his wickedness: they are all of them unto me as Sodom, and the inhabitants thereof as Gomorrah.
Sounds like a lot of Christians I've met.
Since you're obviously a geneticist, C, and can speak with authority on this subject, I breathlessly await your next scientific paper proving that homosexuality is not genetic.
What? You're not a scientist?
Then why should anyone give a big rat's ass about your opinion on a subject you know fuck-all about?
> God did not give you or anyone else a sodomite gene,that is nonsense.
Gay people exist.
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By the way, doesn't the Bible say somewhere that God doesn't punish people for the actions of their parents? That kind of invalidates the whole Garden of Eden myth.
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