[Piers Morgan calls the Bible "flawed".]
I feel like I’ve been punched in the gut. The Bible is not flawed in any way!
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Too easy
pi==3 for instance?
Okay. Lets see...
How about...
No mention or law against slavery. In fact it condones it.
Birds come before land mammals.
The sun stands still.
Women are blamed for getting raped.
Human sacrifice.
Genocide and the ordered slaughter of woman and children.
The sun was created on the first day and then it was created on the fourth day.
The flood that never happened.
These are just off of the top of my head. I could get a lot deeper into why the bible is flawed by talking about the blame that is placed on mankind for being created but you will never read this.
Which did God make first, animals or man?
OK, I'll give you a couple of examples:
1--
God has not been seen at all, by anyone;
2--
3--
Should I go on, or is that enough for you? (You'd probably ignore and/or rationalize those examples away)
The Bible is the book that God gave us to tell us everything we need to know about our lives here on Earth.
Well, I call myself a Christian, but even so, if you could just point me to the chapter about how to fill in my tax returns, I'd be most awfully grateful.
The bible is a poorly edited mess of plagerized myths, legends, and fairy tales, cobbled together by late bronze age kinglets and politicians.
To start with, there are two conflicting creation stories.
But even as literature the bible sucks ass, there are too many plot holes, and too many continuity errors. Dozens of pages of "and X begat X" make it a boring read, and there's even one chapter in one of the books (sorry, don't remember which one) that just ends in mid story and the next chapter repeats part of the previous chapter like it's a transcription error. Then there are the boring letters of Paul to the Romans and other people which don't help the story much.
I firmly believe that the people who are the most fervent about the bible not being flawed in any way are the ones who have never read it. The problem with the bible is that it's like a software end user license agreement... Christians don't read it, they just click on "I agree" at the bottom.
As well as its glorification of violence and death and the fascination it holds for wannabe tent commanders and other males afraid of the truth, specially about themselves, it's also the avoidance of reality and its reliance on magic that makes the Bible a rather large and dismal failure.
Perfect??
Yes, perfect for use as a doorstop or as a fire starter. The contents, on the other hand, are absolute shite.
[Piers Morgan calls the Bible "flawed".]
http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/jim_meritt/bible-contradictions.html
Care to contradict him on the matter, Jodie...?! [/irony]
Along with Jean-Claude Van Damme being forgiven for the abortion that was the "Streetfighter" film, via him parodying himself in the Coors Light adverts, the 'Most Hated Man in Britain' appelation - which now belongs to Jimmy Savile - I can now say all is forgiven, Mr. Morgan. Especially if you can piss off fundies like that!
If I met Piers now, I'd buy him a pint.
(OP)
The biggest example would appear to be the part that starts with "In the beginning..." and ends with "Amen."
ADDENDUM: Aw, crap. Just Some Guy beat me to it.
Wow. That's some weapons-grade ignorance right there, Jodie.
May Jubileus, the Creator, grace you on your journey. You're gonna need it.
Okay. Go breed some striped goats in front of speckled rods. Come back when you get speckled goats. Don't worry, I'll wait. In the mean time I'll use Google maps to find the nonexistent city of Tyre. Yup, still there.
"Maybe there is something that some don’t understand or that they don’t agree with, but it is PERFECT."
Logical contradiction. If it was perfect then everyone would understand it and everyone would agree with it.
Well, I remembered a similar discussion with my former teacher, a nun(I studied in all girl schools, both in Ireland and Spain) in which we were commenting that, in her last trip to Israel, a Kahanist was put in total contempt and ridicule by his fellow Kahanist themselves for suggesting to return to animal sacrifices. You know, if the most fanatic and conservatives of the fanatic and conservative themselves skip deliberately a verse which is clearly in the Bible, maybe there is some room not to take the whole affair seriously.
"I feel like I’ve been punched in the gut. The Bible is not flawed in any way!"
You're right.
Piers was just being nice. Your Bible went way beyond "flawed" quite some time ago.
"Examples please of where the Bible is flawed."
Start with Genesis. End with Revelation. Almost anything and everything in between those two could be considered "flawed", and that would be putting it politely.
"Maybe there is something that some don’t understand or that they don’t agree with, but it is PERFECT."
If it were "perfect", there would be nothing in it that anyone doesn't understand, and there would be nothing in it that anyone wouldn't agree with.
"The Bible is the book that God gave us to tell us everything we need to know about our lives here on Earth."
Really?
Stoned any witches to death lately? How about disobedient children? Maybe you've slaughtered all of your heathen neighbors and taken their land and possessions for yourself?
Easiest example?
The gospels all tell conflicting versions of events.
Not that you ever read the thing or have the reading comprehension to understand it if you did. That's what pastors who pull shit out of their ass are for!
The bible is boring, repetitive, repetitive, boring, wrong on a lot of things (rabbits that chew cud, Noah's flood, having days before the sun was supposedly there, etc), morally abhorrent (numbers 31 for instance) and have I mentioned boring and repetitive yet?
The Bible is the book that God gave us to tell us everything we need to know about our lives here on Earth.
"Duuuh I got my drivers license from the bible." </dunce>
I can't improve upon the following commentary, so I'll just leave it here:
"I think the first words in the Bible should be 'It's round. Looks flat but it's round'."
The bit in the begining about 2 men called Cain and Abel who populated the planet without any women being involved seems a little spurious.
Oh, and everything else in the book too.
Of course the bible is perfect...
Perfectly immoral.
Perfectly good for use only as kindling or toilet paper.
I like anyone who bothers fundies like that.
Actually, the bible is perfect. Perfect to line the parrot cage with.
An example: Genesis chapter one and two contradict each other on the order in which God created things.
One of the things the Bible doesn't tell us: Where did God come from, who created him?
Fuck you Piers Morgan.
Fuck you.
You put me in the horrible situation of agreeing with you.Please never come back from the USA. No one wants you back in Britain.
As for Jodie, yes, Piers Morgan is slime on the excrement of the shoe of humanity, but he is right on this one,
You put me in the horrible situation of agreeing with you.Please never come back from the USA. No one wants you back in Britain.
Yeah, well you'll be getting him back when he's deported for, uh, calling someone a name. Because that's totally a deportable offense.
If you assume the Bible is inerrant, it means the Earth is square .
Oh, and insects have 4 legs. (Lev 11:21-22)
"The Bible is not flawed in any way!"
Prepare to get punched in the face, Jodie. Even an exclamation point can't make that ancient collection of poorly-written fairy tales flawless. For example, Jesus said he was coming back within the lifetimes of some of those he was speaking to. It's been almost 2 thousands years, Jodie, no Jesus yet. Or that the perfect, omnipotent, omniscient, omni-benevolent God can't find a better way to right society than to drown essentially everything?
Which translation of the Bible is the perfect one? How about the Greek Orthodox which doesn't have Revelation in it? What about the extra books in the Roman Catholic Bibles, or the Ethiopian Bibles with the book of Enochs?
The Bible is not flawed in any way!
Right!
For instance, it has a perfect description of how Noah built the arc, right down to the dimensions.
How do we know that Noah built the arc that way? Well, it's in the Bible, isn't it?
I feel like I’ve been punched in the gut.
Serves you right for watching Piers Morgan.
The Bible is the book that God gave us to tell us everything we need to know about our lives here on Earth.
Show me where it says how to service my car or fill in my tax return.
So what you're saying is that no matter what anyone shows you as evidence that the Bible was written by a bunch of Bronze Age Arabs and Christian proselytizers, you can invent it away with some made-up explanation. The Bible says the earth was created 6,000 years ago and we have stars 170,000 light years away? The speed of light must have changed. We're caught in a Star-Trek space warp. A "day" is really a thousand years. God created the light already on its way. What happened to the water after Noah's flood? God sent it into outer space. There wasn't that much water because there weren't any mountains yet. So how come llamas have special hemoglobin to live at high altitudes? Micro-evolution!
Once you postulate a magician who can wave a magic wand and do anything, you can explain away any objections.
Re. the comments about Piers Morgan:
Even a broken clock is right twice a day, unless it's like the one on my mantel that has no hands... then it's only right when no one is looking.
"The Bible is the book that God gave us to tell us everything we need to know"
I need to know what'll be the next format that'll replace Blu-Ray.
(*Consults Online Parallel Bible; uses Search facility
...nope, nothing. Guess the Bible - and thus God - doesn't know everything. And so much for it's so-called 'future prophecies', if it doesn' have a full, comprehensive, exact & precise list of everything that'll happen, even in terms of technological developments. [/hyper-smartarse]
The "bats aren't birds" argument is actually one of the weaker ones to make against the Bible. The word translated as "birds" is the Hebrew `owph , which can mean ANY KIND of flying creature.
Now, the insects walking on 4 legs, on the other hand....
I feel like I’ve been punched in the gut.
Growing up can be a painful process, especially when it has been delayed for a number of years.
I haven't had much exposure to Piers Morgan so I'm sorry, but I have to ask...what's with the hate?
Why is this man so despised?
"The Bible is the book that God gave us to tell us everything we need to know about our lives here on Earth."
What did your bible said about parking lot taxation, computer programming, or building a power generator, again ? Oh, I get it, you're one of those Amish, right ?
Regardless of whether you agree with him or not, who gives a fuck what Piers Morgan thinks about anything? If all it takes is for Piers Morgan calling the Bible flawed for you to feel like that, you have faith issues my friend
Regardless of whether you agree with him or not, who gives a fuck what Piers Morgan thinks about anything? If all it takes is for Piers Morgan calling the Bible flawed for you to feel like that, you have faith issues my friend
Flawed Science: The Bible posits the Earth as the center of the Universe with the sun and the stars orbiting around it. The Sun is actually the center of our local star system, with the Earth orbiting it. The sun is located in the one of the spiral arms of our galaxy, which is only one of uncounted billions in a Universe that defies comprehension.
Flawed History: The Nativity story tells of a ridiculous Roman census where people had to travel to the birth place of their ancestors, all to somehow prove that Joseph was of the line of David. Not only is this census completely preposterous in terms of sheer logistics, but there is no record of it at all even though records of other Roman census' from the same time are well recorded.
Flawed Morality: The Bible condones and regulates slavery, orders physical mutilations for the punishment of minor crimes, and celebrates the Jews campaign of genocide against the indigenous people of Canaan.
Flawed Structure: In Genesis Abraham claimed to have seen the face of God. In later books in the Bible is says multiple times that no one has seen the face of God.
Flawed Prophecies: Ezekiel prophecised in no unambiguous terms that Nebuchadnezzar would utterly destroy the city of Tyre and wipe it off the face of the Earth as punishment from God for the Tyrians celebrating Judea's fall to the same king. Tyre held off Nebuchandnezzar's siege for 13 years after which it peacefully surrendered. Today Tyre stands as the third largest inhabited city in Lebanon.
Then there's this shit: "And thou shalt eat it as barely cakes, and thou shalt bake it with the dung that cometh out of man, in their sight." Ezekiel 4:12.
Fine, detest Piers Morgan, everyone else does. Why you hate him is irrelevant, what matters is that you detest the slimy, shiteating scumbag.
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