[I've always felt that it would be significant when we would see a shift to the E.U. instigating a peace plan rather than the U.S. so this may be a big turning point.]
Honestly, although I knew the AntiChrist would come from Europe, I never postulated this shift of focus over to the EU - so it took me by surprise.
Ponder this: The EU is clear about not dilly-dallying like years past. They're determined to set something on the table that the international community can sign onto, and get it done by the end of the year. They're not interested in failed peace talks after failed peace talks lasting years - they want it done. Whatever reason they want it done so quickly? I don't know. But now that attention is focusing on the EU, I can't picture a constant back-and-forth and up-and-down like we've had for years between America/Israel/PA. The new kid is in town.
Praise the LORD. Yet more reminders of how REAL this all really is. Maranatha!
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You're going to feel really silly when the world doesn't end when you say it will--yet again.
Too bad you're not hoping for peace for the sake of the people who live there instead of hoping for a fairly tale that would bring suffering and death to billions of unbelievers in tribulations.
Frostythesnowman
A couple of weeks ago, the antichrist came from Kenya via Honolulu, now he comes from Europe? He certainly gets around, but I suppose he would have to if he was going to inflict the twin evils of peace and stability upon mankind.
Funny, I'd heard that the EU was on the verge of collapse, with the exception of Germany and the UK.
Also, what is Maranatha? It sounds Indian.
Bold decisive action. This guy has the EU pegged.
By the way, shouldn't the Rapturists wear spacesuits at all times, so that they don't explode when god pulls them out of the atmosphere?
YES! Yes, it's real, it's happening!!
We're finally going to see the back of you lunatics.
"I knew the AntiChrist would come from Europe"
"Whatever reason they want it done so quickly? I don't know."
If you wonder why the EU, well that's because America has become distruted and hated. So somebody had to step up.
"Praise the LORD. Yet more reminders of how REAL this all really is. Maranatha!"
As real as the monsters under the bed, the gobblins in the sewers, the elves in the forest, and the fairies in the garden.
@UHM:
If you wonder why the EU, well that's because America has become distruted and hated. So somebody had to step up.
We didn't fix that when we got rid of Bush and his neocons?
The EU is to ensure WWII would never happen again. Post-war Germany learned that a Democratic government has made it infinitely more stronger (certainly industrially/financially) than a Fascist dictatorship. France is militarily stronger (the only nukes that aren't under direct NATO - i.e. US - control), thus they have a greater say-so in world policy terms (the G8). Coupled with former Soviet Bloc countries that were only too eager to join the EU, thus their armed forces are now allied to NATO (and therefore weakening Russia's position, further rendering the US as now the only superpower).
So how can the EU gaining greater power be a bad thing?! I mean, it's not as if the US is still completely Israel's ally, is it?
And China's prominence is now fucking up your 'Gog-Magog' bollocks too.
So why isn't any of these political paradigm shifts mentioned in your prophetic Bible verbatim , then?
Moronass hat.
@Jeff Weskamp
"Maranatha" comes from the Aramaic phrase "mar-an atha," which means "Our Lord has come."
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Well, I hope he clears up the mess! [/mucky mind] X3
Ruptured Retards? Moronass hats II.
"Honestly, although I knew the AntiChrist would come from Europe..."
Probably from France, amirite? : D
Whatever reason they want it done so quickly? I don't know.
Fed up of seeing innocent civilians on both sides being killed? Because the US has stalled on the issue, perhaps? Because EU governments want to be seen to achieve something? Because the West, which includes what is now the EU, was instrumental in creating the whole sorry mess in the first place?
What ever the reason, what would be the point of putting a peace plan on the table only to say, "how long can we stretch this out?". Surely, the quicker a peace plan is implemented the better it is for everyone, or am I missing something here?
"The EU is clear about not dilly-dallying like years past. They're determined to set something on the table that the international community can sign onto, and get it done by the end of the year.They're not interested in failed peace talks after failed peace talks lasting years - they want it done."
Isn't this a good thing?
Just because Europe is doing something, it doesn't make it automatically evil.
@UHM
"I knew the AntiChrist would come from Europe"
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The EU is probably getting sick of being called into every war the US gets into. The EU is tired of feeling bad about WWII and the jews. The EU knows that a long war is doomed to fail so wants it done with.
The EU is tired of the US keeping Isreal as the nuclear power in the region.
"...I knew the AntiChrist would come from Europe..."
Because if I smack my head, squint really hard and hold my Bible on the proper angle, it says so right there in Revelation.
You don't know why they want peace quickly? How dense are you, Rei? They want to stop the wars NOW, so that no more people need to die in the wars, no more infrastructure is destroyed in the wars, no more money is squandered away in the wars. Is that really so hard to grasp?
The NEW kid is in Town? You do know that the beginning of the EU was a few years after WWII, right? Sure, it's newer than the US of A, but it wasn't formed yesterday.
So, the Anti-Christ wants world peace. Then s/he's the one to rally around, right? Right?
Pre-emptive strikes: Apparantly a Peace Plan.
World Peace: Apparantly a precurser to Hell on Earth.
Rapture Ready: Apparantly totally insane and in favour of the Antichrist ringing in the Apocalypse.
I love how the bar is set in Rapture Ready.
War and strife are rampant? THE END IS NEAR!
The signs point any way they want them to. Mutually conflicting things mean the same. They're looking for shapes in the clouds.
For anyone who was unclear on the narrative, modern Protestants believe the following:
1) a peace treaty is signed between Israel and (insert Arab nation here)
The religionists tend to oddly enough believe that China helps out the good guys (whoever those unnamed superheroes are, wink wink) in the end, and the bad guys are basically Rome and Russia.
5) god comes in to destroy the Antichrist's forces and blah blah peace eternal.
It's a fucked up narrative and you'll have to squint your damnedest to find any of this shit in the Bible.
Delirium:
Please replace "modern" with "deranged", unless you wish to hold that (say) the Church of Sweden (a Lutheran, and hence Protestant, body) is in some way either not modern or not Protestant :)
The whole thing about Europe and the Antichrist is a longstanding trope in fundie literature. It goes back to the image of the goddess Europa in ancient Greece and Rome who was often depicted astride a bull. This has long been identified with woman and the beast in Revelation 17.
#1496917, it cuts both ways I think. The US is, on the whole, a little bit tired of 60 years of subsidizing Europe's defense and having to step in and clear up every time Europe fucks up, as in Bosnia, Kosovo etc. etc. Given your sentiments towards Jews, they seem rather closer to those of Iran than Germany. Do you know W well?
@1497439: Rapture Ready seems like just a bunch of cloud cuckoolanders whining that these are the end times and wanting Jesus to ejaculate all over their face. Moonbattery, on the other hand, is like Free Republic's angrier younger brother, much more dangerous than RR. Not saying RR isn't dangerous, but their danger lies in the fact that they're brainwashing their children, whereas Moonbattery is filled with pure hatred and violence.
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