Evolution has absolutely no evidence supporting it, unlike Christianity. There are no fossil records, and any that they claim to have, are dated by the rock layers they are found in. The rock layers are dated by the fossils they contain. This is a logical fallicy known by the incredibly geeky and my school as petitio principii, circluar reasoning.
There would be millions of years' worth of soil due to the things that are dieing, leaving behind new soil. But, this soil is missing.
The sun shrinks everyday and., if the universe were hundreds of years old, the earth would be a hunk of burnt toast floating around in space.
Animals can not evolve from somthing they do not have the genetic code for. A dog can not gain the DNA neccessary for sprouting wings and scales. There is such a thing as microevolution, animals chaging to suit the enviroment such as growing more fur or less fur, etc. However, as I said, macroevolution is physically impsossible.
Okay, let's give someone else a turn!
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"Evolution has absolutely no evidence supporting it, unlike Christianity.
O RLY
There are no fossil records,
Yes there are.
and any that they claim to have, are dated by the rock layers they are found in.
That's how it's done. The fossils themselves are to fragile, so the earth around it is dated.
The rock layers are dated by the fossils they contain. This is a logical fallicy known by the incredibly geeky and my school as petitio principii, circluar reasoning.
No it isn't. Go back and take Philosphy 101 again.
There would be millions of years' worth of soil due to the things that are dieing, leaving behind new soil. But, this soil is missing.
Proof?
The sun shrinks everyday and,
It might, but the change is so miniscule that it doesn't matter. And this has to do with evolution how?
if the universe were hundreds of years old,
No it isn't fuckwit. It's billions.
the earth would be a hunk of burnt toast floating around in space.
Which it was for about a billion years or so.
Animals can not evolve from somthing they do not have the genetic code for. A dog can not gain the DNA neccessary for sprouting wings and scales.
Sure it can. But not by itself.
There is such a thing as microevolution, animals chaging to suit the enviroment such as growing more fur or less fur, etc. However, as I said, macroevolution is physically impsossible.
I also think it's impossible... for you to grow a brain. BURN!
Okay, let's give someone else a turn!"
::headdesk::
The sun shrinks everyday and., if the universe were hundreds of years old, the earth would be a hunk of burnt toast floating around in space.
My astrophysics degree says otherwise. Im gunna have to go with it on this one. Burnt toast? WTF!
There are no fossil records, and any that they claim to have, are dated by the rock layers they are found in. The rock layers are dated by the fossils they contain.
So what? Even if this were true (and it isn't), it doesn't change the fact that the fossils are found in distinct layers without mixing. Armored fish are always found in layers below the layers with dinosaurs in them. Dinosaurs are always found below horses. There's no rational way to explain this by a six day creation. And the fossil layers were worked out by creationists before Darwin.
A dog can not gain the DNA neccessary for sprouting wings and scales.
Who says the dog doesn't already have the DNA necessary for growing scales?
Evolution has absolutely no evidence supporting it, unlike Christianity. There are no fossil records, and any that they claim to have, are dated by the rock layers they are found in. The rock layers are dated by the fossils they contain. This is a logical fallicy known by the incredibly geeky and my school as petitio principii, circluar reasoning.
Mirror, mirror, on the wall...
* There would be millions of years' worth of soil due to the things that are dieing, leaving behind new soil. But, this soil is missing.
* The sun shrinks everyday and., if the universe were hundreds of years old, the earth would be a hunk of burnt toast floating around in space.
* Animals can not evolve from somthing they do not have the genetic code for. A dog can not gain the DNA neccessary for sprouting wings and scales. There is such a thing as microevolution, animals chaging to suit the enviroment such as growing more fur or less fur, etc. However, as I said, macroevolution is physically impsossible.
Okay, let's give someone else a turn!"
Nope, no need, you win the dumbass in a nutshell award with that fine collection of mangy strawmen you found in someone's closet.
Evolution has absolutely no evidence supporting it, unlike Christianity.
Yet another assertion at right angles to reality.
There are no fossil records
Ever set foot in a natural history museum?
and any that they claim to have, are dated by the rock layers they are found in. The rock layers are dated by the fossils they contain.
Yeah, except not. A little something called radiometric dating there.
There would be millions of years' worth of soil due to the things that are dieing, leaving behind new soil. But, this soil is missing.
Ever heard of erosion?
The sun shrinks everyday and., if the universe were hundreds of years old, the earth would be a hunk of burnt toast floating around in space.
1) "Hundreds"? That would rule out your own creation story.
2) You cannot extrapolate backward billions of years based on a few centuries of data and expect to get a result that is even a reasonable estimate, especially when there is no reason to expect that the rate of decrease is constant over long periods of time and in fact several good physical reasons to believe otherwise.
Animals can not evolve from somthing they do not have the genetic code for. A dog can not gain the DNA neccessary for sprouting wings and scales.
It's called a mutation, dummy. DNA doesn't get copied perfectly. A dog would not get wings and scales from a single mutation, no - but build up enough of them and you damn well might (if there were enough of an advantage to all of the mutations at prior steps that they remained a significant part of the gene pool).
There is such a thing as microevolution, animals chaging to suit the enviroment such as growing more fur or less fur, etc. However, as I said, macroevolution is physically impsossible.
DNA makes no distinction between "big" changes and little ones, except that big ones in a single step are a little more likely to get caught by the DNA repair enzymes we have.
The rock layers are dated by several different radiometric dating methods. The fossils are good indicators of how old a particular rock layer is based on known patterns, but they do nothing to firmly establish its age.
It takes 1000 years to actually form one inch of new soil from weathering of bedrock, to my knowledge. The millions of years' worth of soil from things dying over the earth's history has mostly been compacted into rock or eroded at this point.
The idea that the sun is rapidly shrinking has not held up to serious study and was probably based on erroneous methods of measurement.
If it were necessary to survive in some strange environment, the dog could gradually mutate and evolve wings of some sort, though this would take several million years and many generations of dogs. That, of course, assumes the extra appendages actually would increase the chances of reproduction, along with many, many other variables, but it is possible.
Macroevolution is simply extended microevolution. There really isn't much point to making a distinction between the two.
I hope this has been helpful, though I doubt Gulden_angel is actually going to pay any attention to it.
Actually, they both have supporting evidence but not proof.
The rock layers are dated by measuring neutrino bombardment and the decay state of radioactives, not by fossils.
Things die, leaving new soil. Plants grow, and the matter that was soil becomes part of their construction. Animals consume some, too. Animals eat the plants, and each other, and die... leaving soil. It's not new, it's recycled.
The sun expends its fuel at such a rate that it'll burn out in a few billion years. Don't expect to see any noticeable changes in your lifetime. Your ancestors didn't.
A dog -can- develop DNA structures that instruct the embryo to grow wings, though I'll admit that specific mutation is unlikely for dogs. The whole theory of evolution contends that mutations in the genetic code cause the changes; this is like carving your Legos into other shapes. You seem to be running with the impression that it's like reaching into a toybox to get specific Legos you've got in reserve, and that's not how it works.
"Macroevolution" IS "Microevolution": thousands of cycles of it. It adds up.
This is just freakin' absurd. It's as if he were TRYING to use the weakest possible "arguments" the fundie side has, even presenting them in as ludicrous a fashion as possible.
* There are no fossils, and any that they claim to have are dated wrongly? That's the fastest, dumbest contradiction I've seen in a while.
* "If the universe were hundreds of years old"? That just screams contradiction with his own beloved Bible!
This has GOT to be a troll; I cannot believe somebody would pick these specific concepts, and express them in this particular way, to argue against evolution without deliberately trying to come off as incredibly stupid.
~David D.G.
if the universe were hundreds of years old
This Angel votes for Last Thursdayism!
You obviously dont go outside and examine large rock formations, otherwise you would know that there are distinctive layers, and these layers do in fact recount changes of species over long periods of time, you might try walking the niagra escarpment,,,,, AND PAY FUCKING ATTENTION when you go
"The sun shrinks everyday and., if the universe were hundreds of years old, the earth would be a hunk of burnt toast floating around in space. "
So that rules out the Jesus died for your sins two thousand years ago theory.
The shrinking sun scenario was once upon a time real science. Way back in the fundy period, about 150 yeas ago, it was calculated that the sun could be powered by shrinking for up to 40 million years, thus putting a maximum age on the earth. This went right out the window when nuclear reactions were discovered, but the fundies countinued to repeat this for another hundred years, adding their own little touches, such as changing 40 million years to 6 thousand, and citing the solar neutrino shortage as proof that there are no nuclear reactions happening in the sun.
if the universe were hundreds of years old, the earth would be a hunk of burnt toast floating around in space. Anything you say can and will be used against you to prove that you are a stupid inbred fuck.
I'm not sure everything you're saying here is correct. I know some of it isn't.
"Evolution has absolutely no evidence supporting it, unlike Christianity". I think you mean "Christainity has absolutely no evidence supporting it, unlike evolution".
I highly doubt rocks are dated through circular reasoning. Christianity is "proven" through it, though.
I can't make heads or tails of the next paragraph, so excuse me if I don't refute it.
The last paragraph is explained with two words and two words only: GENETIC MUTATION.
There.
Confused?
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