I believe that only Christianity should be our religion and the only one allowed and I an not one. Original freedom of religion only meant sects of Christianity.
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"Original freedom of religion only meant sects of Christianity."
Actually, it only meant certain sects of Christianity.
Not including yours... sorry.
@David B: Have you considered reading the quotes rather than picking out cliched arguments and just responding to those? You look silly at best when you say thing like "not including your[ sect of Christianity" to someone who has specifically stated that he is not Christian . And while he might be lying for Jesus, he doesn't have to be; Charles Maurras spent most of his life as an agnostic who supported a strong established Catholic Church.
Interesting how the U.S. Government was not founded, in any sense, on the Christian religion, yet Christians like this one want to make the U.S. a Christian theocracy.
I will go with the founding father's meaning of religious freedom, the freedom to follow any religion or to not follow any religion. The founding father's had it right. This nut job needs to learn a little history.
I believe that only Christianity should be our religion and the only one allowed
And I believe in a free democracy with freedom for all religions not some theocratic hellhole.
and I an not one
Either you're lying for Jeebus or you just volunteered to leave the country. Wait, I know, I know. You'll probably just make a special exception for yourself. It never fails.
Original freedom of religion only meant sects of Christianity.
So fucking what? Original right to vote was for white men only. Do you want to bring that back too just because that's the way things were done before (which is incidentally one of the stupidest reasons to do anything)?
"I believe that only Christianity should be our religion and the only one allowed and I an not one."
As I often point out to people such as yourself, you can believe any damn fool thing you like.
"Original freedom of religion only meant sects of Christianity."
Care to cite the source for this? It's sure as hell not in any document that has any relevance to our government and it for damn sure wasn't in any of the personal papers of the Founders.
Freedom of religion meant....freedom of religion. Really. When I say "crazed homicidal maniac", I don't mean "man coincidentally gripping bloody knife and frothing over a dead body because he'd just carved a chicken and washed his mouth out with soap". On the other hand, when I say "supremely deluded shit-fondling twat", I could sum it up concisely as you, so maybe I don't know what I'm talking about.
Just been looking at part of the thread in Topix, the phrase 'drooling moron' might have been coined with King Tut Obama in mind. King Tut Obama the autolobotomation. He's one of those strange people who are able to lobotomize themselves without the use of physical devices, instead, they just utilize the pure negative energy of unthought.
OK, please explain how the Establishment Clause, which states that government can't establish religion and only mentions religion in general, only guarantees freedom to practice Christianity. An essay answer is best, and please cite your sources.
Extra credit if you can find anywhere in any of the founding documents of our country where Jesus or Christianity is mentioned.
Original freedom of religion only meant sects of Christianity.
But that's not what they wrote. So a big short-sightedness on the Founding Fathers' part, eh?
Or perhaps what you claim is not what they meant at all.
Sorry, every time I see "King Tut," I have Steve Martin disco flashbacks.
The founding fathers were mostly deists, as I recall, and not christians as you would know them. The original freedom of religion never mentioned christianity at all.
Yes, lets enforce the very same laws England enforced upon our pilgrim ancestors.
christopher: Usually someone like that would just say they're not a Christian so they'll look like less of a horrible person.
Someone has not grasped the concept of freedom of religion.
Maybe I misread, but I took him to mean "I am not the only one who believe like this".
You're an idiot.
Freedom of religion -- "original" form or not -- has ALWAYS meant that each individual in America has the right to worship as they see fit, so long as they are not harming people. (Hell, even when they ARE harming people, just look at the RCC!)
@christopher
Hey man. Loosen up a little : ) Laughing at these people is the best thing you can do, because you sure as hell aren't going to change their minds. The OP really wasn't all that clear on his religious persuasion given the appalling sentence structure. So have a laugh already. This isn't supposed to be serious : )
But it does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty gods or no God. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.
Where the preamble declares, that coercion is a departure from the plan of the holy author of our religion, an amendment was proposed by inserting "Jesus Christ," so that it would read "A departure from the plan of Jesus Christ, the holy author of our religion;" the insertion was rejected by the great majority, in proof that they meant to comprehend, within the mantle of its protection, the Jew and the Gentile, the Christian and Mohammedan, the Hindoo and Infidel of every denomination.
I'd add some quotes about his opinion on christianity, but it might give the OP an aneurysm :P Let's just say that he wasn't a big fan.
Original freedom of religion only meant sects of Christianity.
Considering what self-serving fuckwits like you can do to the meaning of something written just two centuries ago (the US constitution), it is understandable why the Bible is so fucked up; a text 10 times older.
David B.
@christopher:
From the OP, "I believe that only Christianity should be our religion[...]"
Whether he professes to be Christian or not, he's further refining freedom of religion to be freedom (only) of his approved brand (Christianity). I am yet further refining it to include only those sects of Christianity he doesn't approve of, turnaround being fair play and all.
So my post still stands and you really need to grow up.
So, KTO, you are telling us you are not a Christian, and want to be treated as a second-class citizen on that basis?
You may have a credibility problem... [/gross understatement]
"Freedom of religion" would not have been simply labeled as "freedom of religion" without further development if the writers of the first amendment if they wanted an excuse for Christian favoritism. Yet, they wanted these amendments to be lasting principles, general principles, and could not have been ignorant of the possibility of non-Christian religions either developing or migrating in. They specifically phrased it in the general form of "freedom of religion" and it would take such a level of near-sightedness and provincialism that you would not expect from the Framers for them to use the term religion as a synonym for "Christian religion".
And then, in the 16th century, someone got the brilliant idea, "If all those nasty pagan religions are a threat to the crown, then so are all those heretics who follow other forms of Christianity!!" Numerous wars, uprisings, and general misery followed.
This is why the Founding Fathers gave us ACTUAL freedom of religion, in hopes it wouldn't happen again over here.
I'm thinking there's more than one typo in the post.
"I believe that only Christianity should be our religion and the only one allowed and I an(am) not one (alone). Original freedom of religion only meant sects of Christianity."
I'm thinking that's what he meant to say, why would an unbeliever join in the delusion of Christian founded America?
Unless you people buy the S.E. Cupp posers that are all "I'm an Atheist but I believe Christians are better and should rule others"
"Original freedom of religion only meant sects of Christianity. "
And how, exactly, is this "freedom"?
Confused?
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