The moment you stop caring about this world is the moment you become a Christian ... because only a Christian will hate this world and every worldly thing in it
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So much for all things bright and beautiful, eh?
Frank Zappa had it right. "Ladies and gentlemen, it is fucking great to be alive. If there is anyone who does not agree that it is fucking great to be alive, they should just leave now because this gig will bring them down so much."
Well, Julian is right, and not only is it in the BuyBull to hate the world, but also your father, mother, siblings, everything except you've just got to looovvve that Lord.
Uuuh, no, thank you. None for me.
Christianity = hatred of the world?
I've known a few bitter Christians who seemed to exemplify this very concept, but I always assumed it was because they were warped individuals whose views of life and God were just messed up by their own issues. And you know what? I still think that was the case, and that you are one of them.
~David D.G.
Actually, that's a great tactic for evangelism. Soon, nobody will join Christianity, because people might well realize the foolhardiness.
Sadly, I think we've already given out the Fundamentalism in a Nutshell award.
This quote is so true. They hate themselves, their bodies, their neighbors and everything in this world hedging their bets that some "next" world will be better.
Star Cluster -- Not only should Xians hate their families, they are "unworthy" to be a disciple of Jesus unless they hate their families.
Curious that Xians often talk about the peace and contentment their religion brings them, yet they are required to hate everything and everyone but God/Jesus.
Yes, because Jesus taught everyone to hate. It's one thing for fundies to be ignorant of modern sceince and society but its another to be woefully ignorant of one's own religion - especially when you want to shove that religion down everyone's throats! Sadly, it seems that the higher the rating on the fundy scale, the more of an ignoramus one is about one's own religion.
I thought God created the world and all things in it. Why should we hate God's creation?
This isn't even accurate Christian doctrine. The Christian faith teaches that the things of the world are not sinful or evil (because God alone created all things, and God does not create evil). It is humans who put the things of this world to sinful uses.
Things are not evil. A gun is not evil. Anthrax is not evil. Explosives are not evil. But all of these sorts of things can be put to evil uses .
Sin, even by the definition of Christianity, is an action, not a created thing.
The part of me that grew up Christian wants to try to explain what most Christians would actually mean by 'stop caring about the world'; with them, it would be a poorly-chosen phrase rather than serious hate, they would simply mean that they chose Christian values over worldly ones.
Unfortunately, I don't think this jackass is that reasonable, that intelligent, or that civilized. I swear, it amazes me that freaks like this can even operate a computer.
Yeah, all my reading of non-psycho Christians scholars interprets that as a ranking of priorities. Yes, Christians care about the world, and about the environment, and their family, and their favorite TV show, and the smell of fresh flowers, etc, etc. It's just that Jesus is a higher priority than any of that.
I like how my college theology professor put it: (Direct quote, I have him on tape) "Yes, Christ is the highest of all priorities in the mind and heart of thae Christian. But that doesn't mean Christ is the only priority, just that he is the ultimate one, the priority that trumps all others. But just as it is the higest priority of the human body to seek nourisment and avoid injury, occasionally other, lesser priorities are attended to. Otherwise we would never take a break from eating to scratch our asses."
I guess this explains why they always get so excited when they start talking about the end of the world.
Jesus is coming! Oh God, Jesus is coming!! Oh God oh God oh God oh God!!!!
Wow, was that as good for you as it was for me? ('scuse me, I have to go clean up after myself now.)
@anon
"Inadvertent telling of the truth" award?
An Inconvenient Truth
At 'rapture ready' they have a 'rapture index' that currently sits at 157. Anything over 145 is listed as "fasten your seatbelts", as in apocolypse now. Unfucking real.
This does align with many christian attitudes, like 'who cares? jesus is coming anyway'. If that is the case, why don't they give me all of their shit? They're going to be 'taken away', not their stuff. Gimme, gimme!
What a horrible attitude. And to think fundies have told me, "it must be so lonely not having heaven to look forward to." No. Only if I thought there was a chance it could exist would I feel left out. I am quite content to enjoy my time here on earth with my friends and family and doing the things taht I like to do instead of wasting a life hating everything and waiting to die.
Here's my question: If God created this world and called it good, what makes you think you're supposed to hate it? As I recall, Jesus said to be in the world but not of it. Nothing about hate. And isn't hatred a sin?
Tsk, tsk.
Oh, I don't know. It seems to me just a tad ungrateful to hate the world that you believe your creator built for you, and not want to cherish and care for such an amazing and wonderful gift. Call me crazy, but it seems to me that somebody once was said to promote an attitude of gratitude and love rather than hate and disdain; any idea who that might have been?
~David D.G.
Dude, have you ever read the Bible - or, specifically, the stuff Jesus taught? Get yourself a red-letter copy, and read just what was written in red. Here's one particularly nice gem: "Do unto others as you would have them do to you." (Matthew 7: 12, Luke 6: 31) It's known as the Golden Rule, and I think everybody learns it before the age of six these days.
There is wisdom there, even if you choose not to embrace the theology.
Or, in the words of my late grandmother's minister, the problem isn't with Christianity, but with the people who're running it these days.
As previously noted, hating the world and everything in it really isn't what Jesus preached in the gospels. It is, however, a primary point of dogma for Gnosticism. Gnosticism, in case you didn't know, is one of the oldest Christian heresies in history.
See you in Hell heretic.
Confused?
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