Indeed. Even Heavenly lawn is so crisp that it shreds the damned's feet like broken shards of concrete. Heaven is denser, thicker and more real than Hell which is, by contrast, less defined, cloudy, grey, confusing and nebulous. The spirits in Heaven are more solid than the humans on earth, heavier and more real even. The spirits in Hell are nearly invisible, ghosts really.
What I also like is that Hell is smaller than Heaven. When the busload of the damned come up out of the Earth, they realize that they came out of a small thin crack, and now, once in Heaven they are unable to go back becaue they, quite literally, can't fit. So Heaven is a place that is more alive and real, the spirits dense, colorful and thick compared to Hell's citizens of Foggy Bottom who are ill-defined, see-through and frail.
It is the opposite of William Blake's paganism which suggested a merging between Heaven and Hell. Lewis' cosmology is in stark contrast. There is no room for a merge. You cannot even fit an atom of Heaven into the whole of Hell. It wouldn't fit. Again, literally.
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That's funny, because I was talking to an Angel the other day, as I often do, and he told me that it was just the opposite. I don't suppose you have any credible proof to show that your version is correct let alone that I haven't been conversing with Heavenly beings? I'm a descendant of Joan of Arc you see and so this a perfectly reasonable thing in my family. Also, the toothfairy and I go way back. It turns out that she is building a castle made out of Human teeth in Heaven and I've helped her in her collecting from time to time. Maybe if you're good, one day I'll even tell you how I beat Satan in a boxing match.
Please stop quoting C.S. Lewis like you thought of it yourself. You're debasing Lewis, and making those of us who have read him want to slap you.
(This is Lewis's allegorical description of Heaven and Hell in The Great Divorce - the preface of which goes to great length to explain that it's NOT to be taken literally.)
"Indeed. Even Heavenly lawn is so crisp that it shreds the damned's feet like broken shards of concrete."
Why would your God have let the damned into heaven?
"Heaven is denser, thicker and more real than Hell which is, by contrast, less defined, cloudy, grey, confusing and nebulous."
So, you admit that hell is not entirely real?
"When the busload of the damned come up out of the Earth, they realize that they came out of a small thin crack, and now, once in Heaven they are unable to go back becaue they, quite literally, can't fit."
The damned travel by bus?
Again, who is minding the gates of heaven if the damned are able to come and go as they please?
Once in heaven, why would the damned be trying to go back to hell?
"It is the opposite of William Blake's paganism which suggested a merging between Heaven and Hell. Lewis' cosmology is in stark contrast."
Heaven and hell are both imaginary places. Blake and Lewis are both deluded nutjobs.
"You cannot even fit an atom of Heaven into the whole of Hell."
Putting aside for a moment that both heaven and hell are fictional, what is your support for this assertion? Yeah, that's what I thought.
Wyatt Junker is denser, thicker and more really-fucked-up than a lot of us realized,his "thinking" is, less defined, cloudy, grey, confusing and nebulous.
Dude, you gots ta hook me up wit dem magic 'shrooms you been eatin'!
Is the 'Foggy BOttom' reference keeping in line with Putz Robbertson's idea of nuking the state department?
Even Heavenly lawn is so crisp that it shreds the damned's feet like broken shards of concrete.
Sounds like some old codger's idea of heaven - no more yelling "Hey, you kids, get the hell off my lawn!", the grass does it for you!
"What I also like is that Hell is smaller than Heaven. When the busload of the damned come up out of the Earth, they realize that they came out of a small thin crack, and now, once in Heaven they are unable to go back becaue they, quite literally, can't fit. So Heaven is a place that is more alive and real, the spirits dense, colorful and thick compared to Hell's citizens of Foggy Bottom who are ill-defined, see-through and frail."
Obviously this man is a complete and utter moron. Anybody who has read the proper sources, such as Robert Bloch, should know that the souls of the condemned travel to their eternal torment by train.
~David D.G.
Marnanel: Okay, but this sort of plagiarism just means that he's pulling it out of someone else's rectum instead of his own. Either way, it's a ridiculous metaphor; the only saving grace for Lewis is that he had no intention of it being literally true, as Wyatt Junker specifically claims it to be.
~David D.G.
When the busload of the damned come up out of the Earth, they realize that they came out of a small thin crack,...
I guess that's better than a plumber-sized crack. You could actually squeeze a bus through one of those.
So...people in Heaven are more solid than humans? Okay, cool, Heaven's full of dwarves. But wait...everything in Heaven's a lot bigger than on Earth? So that means that Heaven is full of giant dwarves!
I don't know about you, but my mind is totally freaking blown .
So Heaven is a place that is more alive and real, the spirits dense, colorful and thick compared to Hell's citizens of Foggy Bottom who are ill-defined, see-through and frail.
Wait, so the U.S. State Department is full of demons? I'm confused.
So Heaven is a place that is more alive and real, the spirits dense, colorful and thick compared to Hell's citizens of Foggy Bottom who are ill-defined, see-through and frail.
Trilobiter: Wait, so the U.S. State Department is full of demons? I'm confused.
Actually, I'm pretty sure that THAT part is true.
~David D.G.
"When the busload of the damned come up out of the Earth, they realize that they came out of a small thin crack..."
When I read this, I couldn't help but imagine a tour bus driving out of a crack in the earth and pulling up to a gas station. The door of the bus opened and out poured around 30 damned, most of them with cameras, a few wearing loud, tropical shirts, Satan, the tour guide, telling everyone that they had better use the bathroom now because they wouldn't be stopping again for a while.
Yeah, I'm a bit crazy like that.
And what if like, the entire galaxy was just an atom and the universe was a molecule and molecules are like tiny universes and atoms are all galaxys with smaller universes inside of them.
Dude I got the munchies, literally.
fiction for god.
Who are these people who think they can define the immanent, the eternal, and all those things heaven is supposed to be by their limited minds.
Even I, an atheist, can imagine a heaven more wonderful than their limited witterings
"they came out of a small thin crack, and now, once in Heaven they are unable to go back becaue they, quite literally, can't fit"
I already know I came from a small thin crack, I also know that I'm too big to go back in but that just fine with me because I really don't want to.
Confused?
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