[On the Orlando shooting]
What disturbs me most is that a lot of people are lumping Christians and Muslims together on this one and blaming it on religion in general.
I kid you not, people are commenting online and stating that the "hatred" of those who are boycotting Target is identical to what just happened in Orlando. They see no difference between choosing not to spend your money at a store whose policies you don't agree with, and murdering in cold blood.
What has the world come to where people can even entertain such thoughts? It sickens me beyond comprehension, and I can only imagine how heartbreaking it must be to a perfect and holy God.
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"They see no difference between choosing not to spend your money at a store whose policies you don't agree with, and murdering in cold blood."
Liar (or willfully ignorant); they see the same cause for both acts; religiously fueled hatred and intolerance.
The only difference between the Christians who boycott Target and the Orlando shooter is that those Christians don't have the guts to actually attack anyone and risk losing their lives or freedoms.
I'm sure a few of those boycotters would have no qualms murdering homosexuals if they didn't have to worry about reprisal from the law.
In Kenya and Bangladesh, they are busy killing atheists. In Uganda, they are busy killing homosexuals. And I am not even talking about the usual suspects, such as the Lord's Resistance Army, the islamists, and all the upstanding christians that beat homosexuals for being what they are.
Yes, christians and muslims are pretty much the same. Christians simply usually live in more polished societies where outright murder is frowned upon. If not, they would gleefully do the same things as islamists do.
You can't see the similarity between "a giant man who lives on clouds told me to" and "a giant man who lives on clouds told me to".
Yes I know there's a difference. In one case western liberals restrains the fundies, and in another case it doesn't. But still it's the same thing.
Yup, the hatred of those who persecute transgender people is pretty identical to the hatred of those who persecute homosexual people. The outcome of the hatred are not the same, sure, but the hatred behind them is the same.
A perfect and holy god wouldn't create people with gender-fluidity or with homosexuality AND tell its people to kill those whom HE has created. Only an evil, petty and bloodthirsty god would do that.
Of course there's a difference between Orlando and Target. You can't buy dinnerware and socks at a nightclub in Orlando, and Target is not so noisy. But you mean the difference between hatred in Orlando and hatred in Target - the difference between one theism of hatred and another theism of hatred? Well ... I don't believe the gunman in Orlando brought along a cameraman to document it.
Is that it? Is that the difference? Do I win a prize?
"What disturbs me most is that a lot of people are lumping Christians and Muslims together on this one and blaming it on religion in general."
Oh, we don't need to. What happened to Jo Cox MP yesterday.
Question: Was that murder committed by an Islame ist?
Hate is Hate .
You're not "choosing not to spend your money". You're going in, screaming that you won't be shopping there, slandering both the company and the transgender with a combination of baseless assertions and outright lies, harassing customers and employees and threatening them with death & torture via your invisible friend. The only difference between you and Muslims is strength of conviction. You're both followers of a vile, barbaric religion. They just tend to be truer to theirs than you are to yours these days.
"I can only imagine how heartbreaking it must be to a perfect and holy God."
Why would you care about that? I thought you said you worship Yahweh.
Yes, christians and muslims are pretty much the same.
I always wonder about the term 'Judeo-Christian'. Jews believe Jesus was a fraud (as he clearly doesn't fulfill many of the requirements of the Messiah) yet Muslims believe 'Isa' was a prophet.
Wouldn't a more accurate term be 'Islamo-Christian'?
Well there is the whole Steven Anderson and others say kill the gays or they deserved to die, Uganda and Scott Lively supporting kill the gays bill. Then there's Army of God and Eric Rudolph from 90s. And of course the Target bathroom issue where you call transgender individuals paedophiles.
And one wonders if victims can tell the difference or care
There's no difference: homophobia is homophobia. Like racism, the extreme forms are violent, even fatal. Worse, both religions consider it the will of their invisible Skyfairy.
BTW in my country, "rooted" is a polite way of saying f@ked.
Confused?
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