If you think slavery is wrong, then are servants wrong? Are workers for a shop wrong? A slave is just the same as an empolyee at Walmart, they are working for someone.
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Fry: "You know the worst thing about being a slave? They make you work, but they don't pay you or let you go."
Leela: "That's the only thing about being a slave."
Fry: "You know what else sucks about being a slave? The hours."
W00t! I'm whipping the next greeter at Wal-Mart!
Really, this comment makes me want to smother this person with a pillow...full of hammers!
An EMPLOYEE (see how it's spelled?) or a servant or shop-worker a) voluntarily applied for the job, b) gets paid for the work they do, and c) can quit and walk away any time he/she likes. Not quite the same situation for a slave, is it ? Oh, and d) They have some rights under the US Constitution (not many these days, to be sure, but I believe there are some left).
I have yet to see a Wal-Mart employee's entire family forced to work for the company, nor has any Wal-Mart employee's children been sold to other Wal-Marts.
Analogy fails. Shezz has no idea what in the blue hell it's talking about.
Actually the primary difference is not in the getting paid, but in the freedom to quit. After all, friends and family often help each other out with tasks and so forth, often without money, but this does not make them slaves. On the other hand, if you are forced to work, even if you do get paid, and have no option to quit... that would be slavery.
Except that they're bonded and tortured instead of paid.
Kind of an important distinction, wouldn't you say? Or would you be fine with losing your job at McBurgerFlippy and becoming a slave?
"If you think slavery is wrong, then are servants wrong? Are workers for a shop wrong? A slave is just the same as an empolyee at Walmart, they are working for someone." technicly that's prostitution not slavery but WE ARE ALL HOOKERS IF WE DO SOMEONE ELSES BIDDING FOR A LIVING.
Not exactly the same. A slave is either 1. Owned by another human being from birth or 2. Sold their will for the rest of their life. The employee at Walmart is selling his will in increments(hour by hour) instead of for the rest of his life.
Really if you think about it not much difference. That's why I'm a mutualist and support worker ownership.
Yes, they are working for someone, but they're getting PAID, and can QUIT if they had a reason to. You fail.
A slave is just the same as an empolyee at Walmart, they are working for someone.
Wrong. A slave is a POSSESSION of someone. A person working for Walmart can quit, the best a slave can hope for is to escape.
Ah, naah. As non - union friendly as Walmart is reputed to be I doubt you regularly overhear managers saying things like "Harvey face those fucking shelves now or I'll scourge you to death you bastard. Fiona, be quick with those boxes or you'll get no food."
“I thank God, I shall never again visit a slave country. To this day, if I hear a distant scream, it recalls with painful vividness my feelings, when passing a house near Pernamabuco, I heard the most pitiful moans, and could not but suspect that some poor slave was being tortured, yet knew that I was as powerless as a child even to remonstrate. I suspected that these moans were from a tortured slave, for I was told that this was a case in another instance. Near Rio de Janeiro I lived opposite an old lady, who kept screws to crush the fingers of her female slaves. I have staid in a house were a young household mulatto, daily and hourly was reviled, beaten, and persecuted enough to break the spirit of the lowest animal. I have seen a boy, six or seven years old, struck thrice with a horse-whip (before I could interfere) on his naked head, for having handed me a glass that was not quite clean; I saw his father tremble at a mere glance from his master’s eye ... Those who look tenderly at the slave-owner, and with a cold heart at the slave, never seem to put themselves into the position of the latter; -- what a cheerless prospect, with not even a hope for change! Picture to yourself the chance, ever hanging over you, of your wife and your little childrenthose objects which nature urges even the slave to call his ownbeing torn from you and sold like beasts to the first bidder! And these deeds are done and palliated by men, who profess to love their neighbors as themselves, who believe in God, and pray His will be done on earth!"
-- Charles Darwin, The Voyage of the Beagle .
Yes, I can't remember how many times that happened to me at K-mart!
If you can't tell the difference between forced unpaid labour, and working for a wage, then I have a job for you. I can save myself a few bucks, although on reflection it would be difficult to find a job suitable for a person of your minimal intelligence.
Slaves are owned, and don't get any salary. They have no labor legislation or unions to support them.
Sure, the difference between a Walmart employee and a slave is not that big, but the Walmart employee can quit if s/he wants to.
Servants as in the old days, when one class was seen as lower, only meant to wait on the "better" class? Yes, that is wrong.
If you think enslavement is just the same as employment, we know what to do with you for the rest of your life...
The difference between an employee at Wal Mart and a slave is that no one will try to physically prevent the Wal Mart employee from trying to leave.
A slave is property to be bought, sold or exchanged at whim. An employee is not. The employee is free to go, and the slave is not.
If you don't understand this, then you are completely fucked in the head.
Yeah, except the slave isn't getting paid , is probably being abused, and is probably not there on their own free will.
Are Walmart employees beat like this? Beatings are ok as long as they don't die in a day or two?
When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property. (Exodus 21:20-21 NAB)
“If you think slavery is wrong, then are servants wrong?”
There’s this thing where if i don’t pay a servant enough, he can quit.
If i don’t pay a slave at all, and he quits, i can get the police to bring him back to my property even if he crosses state lines.
Also, if i own a slave, i own any kids she has. Even the bible says, if i set a slave free but he doesn’t want to leave his wife and kids, because i still own them, then i get to keep him forever.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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