My point is that a majority of people aren't always right. Which you acknowledged, so although a lot of scientists might believe something, might they not also all being deceived ? or working from a false set of assumptions ?
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And ironically enough, this person doesn't apply the same thoughts to his own position - even though his set of assumptions is far less substantiated than that of science (which does NOT have to assume no God - it's just that people who are good at applying the scientific method tend to be non-religious).
"My point is that a majority of Xtians aren't always right. Which I acknowledge, so although a lot of religious idiots might believe something, might they not also all being deceived ? or working from a false set of assumptions ?"
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So close...
When it comes to science, belief actually plays very little part. Verifiable, reproducable data is the determinant factor.
And, no, Kent Hovind and his ilk are in no way scientists.
You question can be answered by studying how the scientists come to their conclusions. They do not just go with what "sounds right." There is an extensive process of investigation, examination, cross-examination and re-examination involved. Then, after you have learned all of that, compare it to what creationists do to validate their ideas and tell me which group is more likely to have built their proverbial house on sand.
(PS, that last reference comes from the gospels, in case you didn't know)
"My point is that a majority of people aren't always right. Which you acknowledged, so although a lot of scientists might believe something, might they not also all being deceived ? or working from a false set of assumptions ?"
The Honourable Judge John E. Jones III was the ultimate minority, then. One man.
Therefore you [i]agree[/i] with him, and the socio-political implications the decision - and precedent set as a result of such - of this [i]one[/i] made by this [i]non[/i]-minority, this [i]one[/i] man, is that what you're saying...?!
And Judge Jones is like you jaybee: a Conservative Christian, who was personally appointed to the Federal bench by George Dumbya Bush, a Conservative Christian who believes in Creationism; who in turn was voted in - twice - by Christian Conservatives who believe in Creationism.
Which goes right (back) to the point of your argument: is that a majority of people aren't always right
Enjoy your paradox, pal. Hindsight isn't 20-20, I think you'll find. Now there's Circular Logic, a la that which you fundies are so fond of using: 'The Bible is True, because it says it's True'. [/Hubris]
The simple axioms that scientists work with have produced more complex theories that are consistent with reality.
Parts of the Bible take the most complex systems of the universe as a given and boil much of it down to acts of divinity.
“My point is that a majority of people aren't always right.”
Which is why i remain an atheist when Christains say, “Are you saying your smarter than 90% of the world?
“Which you acknowledged,”
Yes.
“so although a lot of scientists might believe something, might they not also all being deceived ?”
This isn’t just an opinion on pineapple on Pizza. The scientific method is designed to help remove personal bias from the final output. This is why the person suggesting continental drift was, at first, not persuasive. All he had was an opinion.
When he came back with evidence, THAT time he convinced people and it’s accepted science.
Conclusions are checked, methods are criticized, experiments are questioned, and it’s just a big ol’ dogpile on the ‘something they believe.’ If they’re ‘being deceived,’ then a whole bunch of experts are also being deceived.
“or working from a false set of assumptions ?”
Again, the whole Scientific Method would argue against that holding much sway across the industry.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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