David J. Stewart #fundie

David J. Stewart #fundie jesus-is-savior.com

The fact that mankind's languages are vanishing from civilization at any alarming rate is proof that evolution is a lie. If evolution were true, then the process by which mankind has obtained 7,000 languages would be continuing today. Has the evolutionary process ceased? According to the Bible it never happened in the first place. One would have to be a fool to follow the nonsense of evolution. Hey, if the Big Bang Theory is true, then why was there only one? Why not two or three big bangs, or a thousand? It's amazing to me how people continually place God and the Bible on trial; yet unquestioningly accept the illogical theories of evolution. This just shows their wicked heart of unbelief in the Word of God.

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old comment by Mudak

I got news for you, Dave. I don't accept what you think evolution is, either. Good thing the real theory of evolution is nothing like what you claim it to be.

About the language thing, do you know the difference is between a language and a dialect? Distinct dialects call themselves the same common language. Take the southern US drawl, and compare it with the Queen's English. They could be separate languages but at least for the here and now, they're both dialects of English. But the fact that they exist us proof of the evolution of the language.

And how do you know there's only been one Big Bang? I can't speak for anyone else but I don't know that for a fact.

old comment by UHM

Languages: You forget to include the information theory and globalization. At the beginning of the ancient times and the middle ages because of distances languages evolved from other languages and into small dialects. Today, thanks to multiple communication methods and faster travel languages are dying out most of all those of formally isolated peoples. Those languages that have enough non-isolated speakers tend to become simpler, they tend to reduce grammatical complexity towards contextual complexity.
BBT: Many believe there have been multiple Big Bangs, though as they aren't as completely retarded as you are, they don't believe they happend in the same universe.

old comment by dionysus

Language is kind of a strange thing. On the one hand, it evolves remarkably similarly in many ways to creatures. On the other hand, it's also still quite a bit different. For one thing, you can have people that know multiple languages, you can't have a single creature be multiple species. Also, you can steal words from other languages, creatures usually can't steal genes from other creatures (unless you're playing Spore). That all said, both vary over time and more successful (more used) words get passed on (for example, the number 2 sounds similar in most European languages). Both depend on geographical isolation for diversification. And both experience extinction.

old comment by missiletowe

"The fact that mankind's languages are vanishing from civilization at any alarming rate is proof that evolution is a lie."

Funny. Except, in evolutionary theory, isolation is a key to diversity. Just like when pockets of people are isolated, they develop different languages, even if from a common ancestral language.

With the globabl world shrinking, everyone that has the same internet, watches the same TV networks, they're going to have less isolation, less opportunity to be different.

Same way that bigger gene pools spread the same mutations around, while isolated pockets start to resemble ring species.

Looks like language not only doesn't disprove evolution, it's a pretty good analogy...

old comment by Swede

What the heck does languages have to do with biological diversity? Man has indeed meddled in the evolutionary process and many species have gone extinct because of us. But the evolutionary process is still going on, new species are filling the spaces where the extinct species lived.

The Bible is so vague that it might be interpreted to describe both evolution and the Big Bang. We put religions on trial just as much as we put science on trial, which in both cases is continually. That is what science is, stupid; questioning what you don't understand, rechecking what you think you do understand and never accept the answer "I don't know" or "Goddidit".

TheorIES of evolution? I thought there was one theory of evolution, and that all other ideas are just hypotheses so far.

Please! You can't really be stupid enough to STILL believe it was a Bang? Everyone (sane) knows that it was an expansion and everyone must have been telling you this for years and years. I almost hope it's willful ignorance, because the alternative is severe mental retardation...

old comment by Hasan Prishtina

Except that languages are human creations. They can form and disappear in the space of a generation, like Namglish, the pidgin used as a means of communication between South Vietnamese and American soldiers. Before the Americans arrived, there was no reason for it to have existed. After the Americans left, it was of no use to Vietnamese or American, so it died.

Many languages disappear because using other languages offers more in the way of status, economic opportunity, means of survival etc.; others survive by adopting foreign influences, using foreign borrowings, developing their own written standard and so on. The very fact that the English of the King James Bible you use is not the English of the bar and the shopping mall and wasn't the language of the Anglo-Saxon Chronicle should tell you something about the capacity of languages to, er, evolve.

“The fact that mankind's languages are vanishing from civilization at any alarming rate is proof that evolution is a lie.”
That would kind of depend on WHY these languages are disappearing, right?
I mean, it’s not like our biology is changing such that no one can speak Hopi.
But all the movies and TV shows are in English, so if the Hopi don’t make a dedicated effort to preserve their dialect, they’ll use it less and less until they cannot.

“If evolution were true, then the process by which mankind has obtained 7,000 languages would be continuing today.”
But evolution, like distinct languages, depends on isolation.
At this time, information technology, the internet, and satellite televisions are destroying isolation.
Which as zip effect on the biology of a native speaker of Ainu, so evolution is neither proven nor disproven by the disappearance.

“Has the evolutionary process ceased?”
No.
“According to the Bible it never happened in the first place.”
Except according to the theistic evolution believers who think Genesis is metaphor.

“One would have to be a fool to follow the nonsense of evolution.”
Being called a fool by someone as hateful, racist, sexist, and self-important as you, Davey, is a mark of approval.

“Hey, if the Big Bang Theory is true, then why was there only one?”
Seriously? you wonder why the expansion of EVERYTHING IN THE UNIVERSE didn’t happen again before EVERYTHING IN THE UNIVERSE compacts, again, into a single spot?
And you call ME a fool? Fucking brillig, Davey.

“Why not two or three big bangs, or a thousand?”
That’s actually one of the ideas, that the universe keeps contracting to a finite point, then expanding again, over and over.

“It's amazing to me how people continually place God and the Bible on trial;”
You want me to live as if your superstition was real, so, yes, it needs proving.

“yet unquestioningly accept the illogical theories of evolution.”
And YOU think the Big Bang is part of evolution. You’re dumber than I thought.

“This just shows their wicked heart of unbelief in the Word of God.”
No, i have plenty of reasons besides evolution to question your superstition.

David J. Stewart #fundie jesus-is-savior.com

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