I believe ALL muslims are either terrorists, or those that support terrorists. I believe that ALL muslims who live by the koran, and claim to believe the koran, seek nothing but world domination, for that is what the koran directs.
And you know what, if I am wrong, tomorrow, I'll still be alive.
If I am RIGHT... tomorrow, you wont be.
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Overgeneralisation doesn´t work either way, you know. And read the Koran just for a second and try to answer this simple question. IF they are so, why is it possible that at least ten or twelve generations of Christians have lived in Lebanon or in the Middle East without being massacred?
And I believe that ALL Christian fundies are either spiritual, emotional, social, (and occasinally physical) bullies, or those who support bullies. I believe that ALL Christian fundies who live by their fucked-up, self-serving version of the Bible, and claim to believe that messed up interpretation of the Bible, seek nothing but world domination, for that is what their version of the Bible (and their church) directs.(I had to fix that part, it was bugging me. -edit.) If I am wrong, tomorrow I still won't be a fundie Christian.
But you will still be an asshole.
Meanwhile, the greatest mass murderer of all time, Josep Stalin, was a disciple of the Atheist Faith.
Oh dear oh dear
are you still on the whole Stalin rant! Let me try and explain something to you:
Atheism is not a faith. It is not a religion. It is an intellectual and reasoned thought process that allows us to come to the conclusion that there is NO divine force in existence. In simple terms Atheists understand that there is no requirement for a God to explain the Universe. We have found that we can explain the mysteries of the Universe using science there is no requirement for a God in scientific theory. God is used by people to explain things that they cannot understand well stupid people use it anyway.
In no way do we Atheists stand there and say “Because there is no God I am going to murder loads of people.” Unlike religion that says “Because God says so I have to kill all <insert chosen target>.” Atheists I would say from experience seem to be less bigoted that religious people. I guess that is because we can sit back and think through a problem
most of the time.
I would say that Stalin probably acted on a process of “I don’t like this group of people because they don’t agree with me
so I’ll kill them.” And he was so delusional that he did it
a lot.
By the way I’m still waiting for your proof of the existence of God
<< By the way I’m still waiting for your proof of the existence of God
Nutcase Troll: It doesn't work that way, as you should know. Those who assert the existence of God are making a positive claim for which they must provide proof to be taken seriously. Those who assert the negative are merely going by the default. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof, and the claim of an omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent creator deity is nothing if not extraordinary. The claim of such a being's nonexistence is nothing more than the acknowledgment that no such proof has surfaced.
~David D.G.
Thank god we have Nutjob to defend the insane views we regularly ridicule.
Oh dear, you're still unable to demonstrate that Stalin the Atheist wasn't the greatest mass murderer of all time, I see. Atheism is not a faith.
Prove it.
It’s a matter of language really. Faith in terms of religion means that you accept the doctorine of a church or religion. I have become an Atheist through my study of science. I was bought up as a CoE protestant but slowly lost my faith’ over the years as I studied science.
Atheists believe "there is no God". Yet they have no proof of that faith belief of theirs, nor do they have any scientific evidence in support of that faith belief of theirs.
It is not a religion. It is an intellectual and reasoned thought process that allows us to come to the conclusion that there is NO divine force in existence.
LOL! Atheists believe "there is no God", NOT "we can't know whether God exists or not".
You don't even understand the difference between Atheism and Agnosticism, I see.
How sad it must be to be you, so devoid of even the most fundamental intellectual understanding of those two belief systems.
Nope not agnostic
please don’t tell me what I believe. I know that there is no divine force. I was at one point agnostic and did acknowledge the fact that there may be a God however I now consider myself and atheist as I know there is NO God or other Supernatural entity.
In no way do we Atheists stand there and say “Because there is no God I am going to murder loads of people.”
Never said you did. What I SAID is that you disciples of the Atheist Faith stand there and say "there is no God", yet you have no proof for that faith belief!
By the way I’m still waiting for your proof of the existence of God
Just as the rest of us are waiting for YOUR proof of the non-existence of God...
Unfortunately I have quite a bit to do at the moment
not chickening out just don’t have the time to go into an argument that can take months (will put together a list of my arguments and post at some point in the future).
Remember, even YOU finally admitted that you disciples of the Atheist Faith "stand around" saying "there is no God."
That's fine; you're entitled to that particular faith belief of yours. What you are NOT entitled to do is to act like a weasel and pretend that you have some sort of PROOF or scientific basis for that particular faith belief of yours.
Erm we have quite a bit of logic
you’re around here quite a bit so I’ll put something together and publish it on the web and direct you towards it. In the mean time you could always check out:
http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=3182
The God Delusion Richard Dawkins
A Brief History of Time Stephen Hawkins
Origin of the Species Good old Darwin
http://www.secularhumanism.org/library/fi/schick_21_1.html
Then spend time trying to expand upon the ideas without attributing anything to God. You’ll find that it is easier than you think.
Meanwhile, the greatest mass murderer of all time, Josep Stalin, was a disciple of the Atheist Faith.
Gonzo67, You have obviously never actualy read the Q'ran,
Meanwhile, the greatest mass murderer of all time, Josep Stalin, was a disciple of the Atheist Faith.
Heh, further proof that Al there is a troll, if he was a part of this online community and not just a gadfly, he would know that The Sandman is not an athiest...
Addressing the original post for a change:"And you know what, if I am wrong, tomorrow, I'll still be alive.
If I am RIGHT... tomorrow, you wont be."
So, here it is the next day. If Gonzo67 is still alive, and we are as well (or if whoever he was addressing is still alive as well), would that mean he is both wrong AND right?
Of course not, because that would be impossible -- and in any case, his conclusions had no connections whatsoever to the premises. But in addition to being wrong, he also shows that he is unable to formulate a proper argument.
~David D.G.
TeabagSalad wrote:It is not a religion. It is an intellectual and reasoned thought process that allows us to come to the conclusion that there is NO divine force in existence .
and then Algore Lib Nutcase wrote:
LOL! Atheists believe "there is no God", NOT "we can't know whether God exists or not".
You don't even understand the difference between Atheism and Agnosticism, I see.
Try reading the comment again. You seem to be confused.
Nutcase: All right, then, prove that an invisible, intangible, intelligent, flying pink unicorn does not exist. Good luck with that.default position without at least some kind of evidence to suggest existence. Stating that there is no God is stating an obvious first principle; the burden of proof is on whoever asserts that one exists.
Really, this isn't as hard to understand as you keep trying to make it.
~David D.G.
Dawkins is helpful here. knows there is one.?
If nutjob is discussing (7) then perhaps he is right. I'll put myself down for a (6).
Well MK, we're still waiting for proof of YOUR faith belief that "there is no God".
A) I asked first.
B) I am not atheist.
So chew on that, then get back to us when you're ready to answer.
Nutcase:
I guess the nutcase doesn't understand that you can't prove a negative. The only way to disprove a negative is to prove the positive. In other words, a person who believes that their is no god would not be required to prove that point. What they would be required to do would be to disprove evidence of the opposite. In other words the way to prove atheism is to prove that the supposed evidence for the existance of God is false. Since no evidence is forth coming for the existance of God, there is nothing for them to disprove and therefore their assertions are correct.
Okay folks, we've had our fun with Al the Clown, but let's not feed the troll too much. Methinks he enjoys the attention just a tad too much, like a toddler holding his breath.
Also, if he's asking people to prove that god doesn't exist, he should also be required to prove that every other god ever worshipped or thought up other than his own doesn't exist, either.
I believe that ALL Americans are either idiots, or those who support idiots. Oh, wait a moment, *'s approval rating is at 34%. Nevermind.
NOw if all Muslims were bent on world domination, you'd think they would have done a better job of it. I mean they're second largest religion on the planet after all, and they only control how many countries?
"I believe ALL christians are either terrorists, or those that support terrorists. I believe that ALL christians who live by the bible, and claim to believe the bible, seek nothing but world domination, for that is what the bible directs.
No the really funny thing is that the nutcase thinks I am an atheist while I am in fact Roman Catholic and believe in God. I have faith that there is a God and recognize that you can not prove the existance of God because to prove that existance would deny faith and faith is the cornerstone of my beliefs.
Yes, and faith is also the cornerstone of the Atheists' beliefs. They have no proof or scientific evidence to support their belief that "there is no God", which means it is a faith belief on their part. In fact faith is the cornerstone of the Atheist belief system. anything -- without absolute proof? Way to tear down religion there.
@Algore Lib Nutcase
Funny, one of my friends is Muslim, and she's never talked about world domination. As a matter of fact, she's as angry at the terrorists as everyone else is, and is sick and tired of the bad reputation that they're giving other Muslims.
And two of the boys who rode in the same school bus that I did were Muslim. Not once was I afraid to ride in the bus with them there, nor did anyone ever find either of them chanting prayers to themselves in Arabic while fidgeting with their backpacks. The only reason I dreaded riding the bus was because most of their white Christian classmates were loud, obnoxious, and acted like complete jerks to the bus driver and to each other.
So, Gonzo67, you are wrong. Dead wrong.
They believe ALL Christians are either terrorists, or those that support terrorists. They believe that ALL Christians who live by the Bible, and claim to believe the Bible, seek nothing but world domination, for that is what the Bible directs.
You are probably BOTH wrong; most people are decent human beings, regardless of religion or lack thereof.
I believe all Christians are warlike murderers. After all, there are hundreds of situations in which you are supposed to kill for God.
Luckily, not all Christians believe all that crap, and the same is probably true for Muslims.
Confused?
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