How could a movie (Harsh Times) with 296 f-words and 145 s-words only get an R-rating, rather than an M-rating?
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Because it's just a fucking word. I can say 'No' a hundred times, or one time, it still means 'No'.
Hmm, I guess they wouldn't like my "Ode to fuck". Pretty much replace every word with fuck however it's sung to the same tune. Most people found it greatly amusing, but there's always that stick in the mud that whines.
I’ve never understood this whole AFA and millionmom stuff. I’m a mombut I don’t worry too much about what is on TV or in the movies, because if I don’t agree with it I just turn it off or not go to a movie I think is questionable. What is so hard about that? Geeze, if you don’t like what is on tv, then turn it off and read a book to your kids. Of course they don’t want to do that, because then their kids may actually learn to think on their own.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but minors can't into R rated movies anyway right? She must be confusing NC-17 with M which as far as I know is a videogame rating.
Mom should be a fly on the wall in Junior High and learn how people really talk. Anyway, who the hell sat around counting the cuss words? They need to get a life. Besides, the words "Saddam Hussein has WMDs" have gotten a lot more people killed than the word "fuck" ever did.
<<I'm confused too.
For the Aussies on board, in America the movie ratings work like this:
Had to count every one of those f or s words, huh? Reminds me of the group from the Catholic League of Decency who got together to review and rate a film; they were pretty sure it was pornographic, but they just had to watch it a few more times to make absolutely certain.
<< ...theaters enforce NC-17 policies, but rarely enforce R policies (e.g., your 14-year-old can easily get into an R-rated film without question). >>MK: Actually, it depends on the theater sometimes. Back in junior high school, I was turned away from a particular PG-13 movie TWICE when I was 14 (Phantom of the Paradise ), and was only allowed in when a parent went in to watch it with me (my long-suffering father). Note, this wasn't even an R movie! I suspect that the manager must have had his own agenda going on in conflict with his business sense and his industry's rules at the time.
~David D.G.
There used to be an "M" rating for movies ("Mature Audiences") when the MPAA instituted the ratings code in 1968. The ratings then were G, M, R and X.
Yeah, some years back more uppity parents got the idea that video games ought to have ratings on them as well. Since they couldn't very well stop the production of "Grand Theft Auto" and "Quake IV" and "Kill Rape and Pillage" (okay I made that one up), they decided that games should at least have ratings to tell parents whether their kids should be playing the games or not. This was, of course, much much easier than actually paying attention to what their kids were playing and figuring out for themselves if their kids should play them.perfectly okay for teens to play because the violence is usually cartoonish or not graphic and explicit)
M - Mature (even more violent, disturbing, or whatever than the T rating - be on guard for beheadings, disembowelment, dismemberment, etc.)
Sticks and stones. Words like 'fuck' and 'shit' are perhaps coarse, perhaps looked down on, but they are not, in and of themselves, evil or reprehensible.
Okay, thanks to this thread I am now starting to think about how old any of my (future) children will be before I let them play my copy of Resident Evil 4 .
MPAA,
Here’s my proposition for a new, fair, rating system for films.NDA: Not for Dumbasses. The film may contain depictions of behavior that anyone who isn’t a dumbass knows not to imitate, language that anyone who isn’t a dumbass knows isn’t appropriate for normal social situations, ideas and/or concepts that anyone who isn’t a dumbass knows is not meant to offend or invalidate their worldview, and/or a fictional story that anyone who isn’t a dumbass knows isn’t real.
DO: Dumbasses Only. The film contains only the most innocuous, puerile, trite situations, language, ideas, behaviors and story. The film has been stripped of controversy, relevance, and thought. Nothing in the film is in any way intriguing or interesting. The story is simple and explained in great detail. The characters are broad and stereotyped to avoid any confusion; the white guy is always the hero, the black guy always dies first, and the ugly people are always evil.
CDO: Christian Dumbasses Only. Just like DO rating, but the story and characters are overtly Christian, and the resolution to any conflict is always either prayer, divine intervention, or fulfilled Biblical prophecy.
These three base ratings can be amended with these riders:
-TPHAPOASHHDBYKI: The Poster Has A Picture Of A Severed Human Head, Don’t Bring Your Kids, Idiot.
-CNOANHN: Contains Nudity Of A Non-Hottie Nature. (Also known as the “Kathy Bates Warning.”)
-NSFCWAOR: Not Screened For Critics, Watch At Own Risk.
Dear Lord, grant me your stregth and guidance, and let my gaze be keen, for I go to count the obscenities in yet another movie. This I ask in your name and for your greater glory.
Because it's a movie, and not a video game?
"You're thinking NC-17. Which the MPAA hasn't given a movie for language in about... pretty much its entire existence."
<b>Clerks</b> was originally awarded an NC-17 (it was appealed down to an R), and (if any of the three people in the USA who haven't heard of it are here,) it's more or less just people standing around talking for 95 minutes.
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I PWNED YOUR MOVIE!
Children should be taught the f-word and then not to use it except when appropriate.
Adults should stop using the word "f-word" because it sounds mighty childish.
Authorities should stop beeping every unwanted word away for it is far more annoying than an occasional "fuck", also it is harmful to society to bleed censorship into everyday life.
"How could a movie (Harsh Times) with 296 f-words and 145 s-words only get an R-rating, rather than an M-rating?"
1- The changing attitudes of the MPAA and BBFC.Who, like you lot, don't have broomhandles up their arses. can .
....Because M is a video game rating, maybe?
Just for the record, the video game ratings are:
EC (Early Childhood) - Suitable for children ages 3+
Overuse of the word "fuck" should be taught (actually using the word in the teaching for the sake of demystifying) as the same as "crying wolf" -- the word is more effective the less often that you, personally, use it. Beyond that, well...who gives a fuck ?
'What da FUCK is dis fucker fuckin' sayin', you FUCK?!'
[/Joe Pesci] X3
Say Hello, Mr. Sweary! [/Alexei Sayle]
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