Bro. Ignatius Mary #fundie

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Why are there genetic abnormalities? It is not God's fault. God created us with a perfect gene pool. It is the sin of men that lead over time to mutate genes so that we now have many congenital conditions.

If Adam and Eve had not chosen to sin, we would still have a perfect gene pool. Sin, for example, causes diseases. Some of those diseases cause chromosomal changes, which leads to a contaminated gene pool.

St. Paul said it, Romans 1:26-27 "For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. Their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural, and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in their own persons the due penalty for their error."

Disease is the natural result of homosexual sin, but also to all sin.

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old comment by John

If collective human sin caused some sort of general deterioration of the human genome, we would expect such deterioration to be widely and relatively uniformly distributed. But instead, we find that a handful of people have severe abnormalities, while others seem to escape the problem. Therefore, the hypothesis that it's a general deterioration is false. On the other hand, maybe the genetic deterioration is aimed at specific people because of their own sins, rather than the sinfulness of humanity in general. But in that case, one would expect there to be some correlation between one's own sins and genetic defects. But there isn't. In fact, many genetic defects result in spontaneous miscarriage, so that the person dies before they're even born. While I suppose some bizarre theology claims fetuses are sinful, too, it would be hard to claim they're even more sinful than the rest of us and deserve death or horrible congenital mutilations such as trisomy 13. Furthermore, we know some genetic defects (e.g., Down's Syndrome) are correlated with the age of the mother, so that we would appear to have some control over the process. If God or Satan is polluting our genome because of sin, why can we control their actions by when we choose to have children?

Finally, the whole idea is baloney as far as the Bible, too.

old comment by Horsefeathers

"Why are there genetic abnormalities? It is not God's fault. God created us with a perfect gene pool."

Which was then fucked all to hell by a woman eating an apple. I'm not sure I'd call that a "perfect" gene pool.

"It is the sin of men that lead over time to mutate genes so that we now have many congenital conditions."

If "sin" can supposedly corrupt your god's "perfect" gene pool then the gene pool was, obviously, not "perfect" or it would not have such a vulnerability.

Your god is also omnipotent, a fact people such as yourself conveniently forget when making such arguments, and could therefore have corrected the problem at any time. Not to mention the fact that if an omnipotent entity creates something there is absolutely no fucking reason it should ever become less than perfect unless it was intended to be that way from the beginning.

So, either your god intended genetic abnormalities to begin with or he is not omnipotent as he obviously did not create any sort of "perfect" gene pool, as evidenced by the fact that there are a whole host of rather unpleasant mutations that can appear.

"If Adam and Eve had not chosen to sin, we would still have a perfect gene pool. Sin, for example, causes diseases. Some of those diseases cause chromosomal changes, which leads to a contaminated gene pool."

Either your god created a "perfect" gene pool through his omnipotence which, by definition, would have been incorruptible or your god intended just what we see or your god is not omnipotent. Then there's the most obvious reason: your god does not exist. However, for the sake of argument I'll take it for granted that he does exist. So, which explanation do you find the most likely?

"St. Paul said it, Romans 1:26-27 "For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. Their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural, and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in their own persons the due penalty for their error."

Disease is the natural result of homosexual sin, but also to all sin."

Show "sin" exists as something other than a religious device of psychological manipulation and control.

old comment by TheeAlmighty

Dear Humanity,

Hey, it's God here! You've been really shitty lately, so I'm going to wipe out a full third of the population of Europe. While the Black Death is killing off millions, I'd like to remind you of a quote by my very own Brother Ignatius Mary. "Sin. for example, causes diseases." Nevermind all that SCIENCE-talk about "Pathogens" and rats and fleas and all that other crap. What do they know, anyways?! Facts and measurable data have NOTHING on ME! I'm glad I could clear that up for you. I'm going to get back to what i was doing."

(Inserts Godly fingers into Divine ears)

"I'm right, you're wrong! Come on, my fundies! Just like this!
LA-LA-LA-LA-LA....

“Why are there genetic abnormalities?”
Because our genetic system is not perfect.

“It is not God's fault.”
If god made the system that’s capable of (and prone to) replication errors, he sure as fuck did.

“God created us with a perfect gene pool.”
There’s no sign of that.

“It is the sin of men that lead over time to mutate genes so that we now have many congenital conditions.”
Exactly how does sin affect genes?
Sin is a decision in God’s head. He wrote the rules, he determines if behavior violates those rules. That’s his opinion. By what mechanism does his opinion affect genes?

“If Adam and Eve had not chosen to sin, we would still have a perfect gene pool.”
How? I still don’t understand how breaking God’s rule changed THEIR DNA. THis would be like saying that ‘watching a TV show that included nudity reprograms you doorbell camera.’

"Sin, for example, causes diseases.”
Please identify the mechanims. What’s the chain of events? I steal a loaf of bread, skip a bit, Gonorrhea? How?

“Some of those diseases cause chromosomal changes, which leads to a contaminated gene pool.”
And again, God would have had to set it up that way.

“St. Paul said it, Romans 1:26-27 "For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. Their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural, and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in their own persons the due penalty for their error."

Disease is the natural result of homosexual sin, but also to all sin.”
HOW!?!?!

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