bfw314159:
If only you belonged to a religion that said lying about other people was wrong...

Oboehner:
EVERYONE has religious beliefs.

bfw314159:
Did you have a point?

Oboehner:
Yes, here it is: EVERYONE has religious beliefs. Especially religiously zealous atheists.

Chris Clayton:
That is like saying everyone is a sports fan, including those that have absolutely no interest in sports.

Oboehner:
Not in the same ballpark - so to speak. Everyone has a belief as to the origins of everything around them (which has a direct affect on their lives, sports do not).

TheKingOfRhye:
"Everyone has a belief as to the origins of everything around them"
What about agnostics, people who think such things either aren't and/or cannot be known? How is that a belief, much less a religion?

Oboehner:
Everyone.

TheKingOfRhye:
What about agnostics?
(If you're just going to repeat yourself, I guess I'll do the same.)

Oboehner:
They have a belief as to how they got here, or do they just float around being ignorant watching SpongeBob?

TheKingOfRhye:
What do you think that that belief is? You do know what "agnostic" means, right? I thought I'd explained this a few times before, but I guess I have to one more time....I'm an agnostic AND an atheist. I don't believe in any gods, but I don't pretend to have all the answers as to the origins of everything. I mean, yeah, I can say the Big Bang happened, but that still leaves one with the question of what caused that, if anything did. I'm just fine with leaving that question unanswered, because I don't think it's something that I CAN know. I wouldn't consider that "floating around being ignorant." (and I don't watch SpongeBob either)

Oboehner:
Agnostics BELIEVE that the existence of God is unknown/unknowable.
"I can say the Big Bang happened" There is that religious belief I was talking about.

TheKingOfRhye:
"Agnostics BELIEVE that the existence of God is unknown/unknowable."
Then, how is that, in any way, a "belief as to how they got here"? At the very least, you're stretching the definition of the word "religious", if, as it seems you're saying, ANY sort of belief is a religious one.

Oboehner:
Show me one person who doesn't have some belief or another about how they got here.