I'd like to pick up where sport left off a few weeks ago with regards to miracles.
I believe God created as described in Genesis. That is one big supernatural miraculous event.
Evolutionists however must believe in a series of miracles with no supernatural cause. Billions and billions of flukes giving us politicians and penguins on planet earth 14 bn years later.
I believe in one miraculous creation over a 6-day period. Evolutionists believe in billions and billions of miracles over billions of years with no intelligence allowed.
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@One Trick Pony:
Is it the Church?
Think how the world would be different if some of the biblical flukes didn't happen....
What if Eve wasn't temped by the snake?
Ok, where to begin?
First, for an event to be considered a miracle, it needs to have a supernatural cause. That is the definition of a miracle. Evolution follows a series of strict rules and, by definition, it natural since it is a result of changes within an organism's environment.
Second, evolution is not random nor is it a series of flukes. It a series of subtle changes within an organism that enhance traits that enable the organism to survive within its environment.
"No intelligence allows" pretty describes you, Scarlets79.
Creationists believe in piles of miracles while sane people believe in scientifically sound theories that need not step on the grounds of the supernatural in any way. Right, well, that's a pretty strong case you've got going there...
you idiot. you absolute fucking idiot. your education system has failed you badly. read a gcse level book on evolution, you will find that no evolutionary biologist in the history of science has claimed that evolution happened by chance. NATURAL SELECTION IS THE OPPOSITE OF CHANCE. oh sod it, you're probably beyond help. it makes me laugh how christians are so proud of their blind faith, to the point where they'll actually proclaim it quite proudly in public and completely miss that the rest of us think you're a bit simple as soon as you utter 'so i was at church...'.
Umm, the earth is 4.5 billion years old, and could not sustain life for the first billion. You're thinking the age of the universe.
Also, we don't call them miracles.
Evolution and the big bang theory doesn't contain a single miracle. It's plain and simple causality.
1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. [What does beginning mean, it does not say God created time]
So, which is more improbable: an item being pieced together step by step, or an item just popping into existence? It's funny...the Boeing 747 argument applied to make evolution seem impossible is actually more relevant to Creationism than evolution. Go figure.
"...pick up where sport left off..."
It's not like I had to read the rest of the quote to know what kind of nonsense would be in it, but I'm glad I forced myself to read the "politicians and penguins" line. That would make an awesome band name.
Duh, of course intelligence is allowed (in the evolution of life). Just as soon as you come up with some actual evidence of an intelligent designer at work in the evolution of any one of the many naturally occurring species of the world, we'll allow it.
*waits*
"Evolutionists however must believe in a series of miracles with no supernatural cause."
Miracles by defintion are supernatural, dumbass.
To believe what you say, we have to rearrange, adjust and redefine the notion of "miracle" so much, that your argument loses base.
A miracle is the happening of an event which is impossible (which really means that miracles do not exist.) Evolution may involve events which are improbable in some time spans, but in millions of years, such improbable events may become inevitable.
"Next, let's watch the atheists argue the non existence of god using science from Iron Man... Tee hee, won't that be fun!"
(No, actually, the engineering in Iron Man wasn't too unbelievable, only that some spoiled brat would have paid enough attention to dad to do it.)
no intelligence allowed.
And a stupid new talking point, which we'll have to endure ad nauseam from now on, is born. Thanks a lot, Ben Stein.
What are the odds that penguins would inhabit Antarctica in their present form? Astronomically low.
What are the odds that SOME kind of animal would inhabit Antarctica? A hell of a lot higher.
OMG, WHAT ARE THE ODDS?!?!!
Genesis has two descriptions which contradict one another, besides being horse shit.
Never actually read that ludicrous work of fiction, have you?
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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