God does not allow things to pass outside of his will. There is not a randomness to what happens in the world. Sure, we are accountable for what we do, but it doesnt take away the fact that God is still in control. Sounds paradoxical doesnt it? But, its more like "Why is grass green?" It just is. God just is. Gods ways just are. Seems unfair? Nope, God is God and knows what hes doing. This is an aspect of faith. You trust what God is doing even if it seems wrong. Is that foolish? Blind faith? Nope, God gives you so much proof of himself as you grow in your relationship with him, that it is not blind at all. [Emphasis added.]
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Sorry you lose; grass is green because the light absorption of the color green is just right for photosynthetic organisms to absorb the type of energy they need to convert CO2 and water into energy. For all of you that answered Goddunit, you fail, thank you for playing.
Guys, remember that red and blue chlorophyll do exist. They just happen to be rarer, because...well...they aren't as efficient. Grass could be blue or red, it just happens to be green because green is the most effective color.
"God just is" is simply an intellectual cop-out on the same order as "Goddidit." You can't explain it so you opt for the simple, non-explanation of "God just is."
When I was growing up, the grass question came up among kids and we had to be satisfied with this sort of cop-out answer. Same with, 'Why is the sky blue?' or 'how far away is heaven?'
God is God God gives you so much proof of himself as you grow in your relationship with him...
He does? Where?Shouldn't he give you more of this so-called "proof" right at the beginning when you doubt the most?
Sure, we are accountable for what we do, but it doesnt take away the fact that God is still in control. Sounds paradoxical doesnt it?
Yeah, it does. It sounds absolutely bonkers.I am accountable for my actions even though something else other than me is controlling them. Well done. You just failed rudimentary logic.
NotMe has a point. How do you grow a relationship with a invisible grand daddy that no-one has ever seen?
Let´s put it clear. You are responsible FOR VIRTUALLY ANYTHING YOU DO. Otherwise, stop saying that we are making God angry and the such. If he is in control, as you claim, atheism should be the will of God. Or what?, why are you so preachy then?
This is absolutely desperate bullshit. Ben's trying to convince himself, not his audience. He's devoted himself to this belief system, and the cracks are showing. Bet you in a couple of years that Ben will renounce his faith and become an atheist.
"The puppet has free will, but the puppeteer is in control." (If he's a puppet under the control of the puppeteer, how does he have free will?)
If the referee is in control, how is it that the player still has free will?
"God gives you so much proof of himself as you grow in your relationship with him ..."
Glazius #101738 control the player, or there would be no need for penalties in the first place.
~David D.G.
You know, thinkgs are happening at such breakneck speed these days (look at the news) Knowledge is being increased, prohesy is being fulfilled. The book of Daniel...My God, The Book of Daniel!!!
anevilmeme, quantum mechanics is far less random than it appears to be at first. The waveform equations for hydrogen have already been perfectly computed, and they're working hard on helium, which is actually an order of magnitude more complex. The Uncertainty Principle's effects can be scaled down so low that individual electrons can actually be traced.
Machine translations are imperfect. Single-tired-person translations may be equally flawed. Fundiebabble-to-English translator now engaged.
"Why is grass green?"
Chlorophyll. Next question. Gaps. The more they're filled, the less relevance a 'God' has in peoples' lives. One of the first gaps filled was when a church put up a lightning conductor.
A question for you Ben: Why can't God appear in front of people? (check one):
[ ] Because if he did, it would result in the destruction of religion ('Proof denies faith, and without faith there can be no belief', and all that jazz).
[ ] Because he doesn't exist.
Choose wisely, Ben.
"God is God and knows what hes doing"
But he couldn't see those Iron Chariots coming (Judges 1:19). So just as Kryptonite is to Superman, Iron is to God, eh? Steel - used in the construction of vehicles - contains iron.
If 'God is in control' as you claim, then why couldn't he have done something about said chariots - as in not allow the creation of the element Iron (Fe) in the first place? There's a fuckload of Iron Chariots today eh, Ben?:
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"God does not allow things to pass outside of his will."
Who created Lucifer , again? Please remind me Benny-boy...?:
Isiah 45:7: 'I form the light, and create darkness : I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things. '
Amos 3:6: 'Does the trumpet alarm sound in a city, without the people being afraid? Does evil happen to a city, and Yahweh hasn't done it? '
Can you say 'Omniscience ' o fundies? I know you can.
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God: 2,038,344
Satan (and only on God's authorisation ): 10
Thanks for the great advertisement for Satanism, fundies. And for proving that Lucifer is actually the good guy in all of this.
If 'God made everything ' as you lot claim, then he made me an Atheist. Who are you to question his will ?! [/hyper-smartarse] >:D
God does not allow things to pass outside of his will.
Except the time when Lucifer told God to go fuck himself... and then when he crapped on that whole Adam-&-Eve thing that God was doing, like some beach bully who waits for you to finish your sand castle and then kicks it down... and then that thing with Cain & Able. As a matter of fact, the entire history of the Abrahamic faith is littered with Satan bullying God... and God being a non-confrontational, passive-aggressive bitch, taking it out on humanity time and time again, like the cowardly wife of a physically abusive husband, who takes her angst out on the kids by beating them. Honestly, <Sean Connery> your religion sucks balls... donkey balls. </Sean Connery>
@ Andromeda
Its been seven years now. Have you made it yet?
Oh wait, don't tell me, soon, right?
"God does not allow things to pass outside of his will. "
So it's his will that children are raped by priests they trust? And that they are born with horrible defects and cancer? And that some don't have enough to eat?
Some all-loving god that is....
"...God is God and knows what hes doing. This is an aspect of faith."
- Ah, so its all about faith then.
- Oh, so its not about faith, its about proof.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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