The Libs care about the 4000 lost in Iraq or some Butterfly in a forest somewhere --- but don't give a rat's ass about the ~850,000 aborted babies lost every year.
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no, but it perturbs me to no end about all the children who were born, to fundie parents because Jeebus told them to, then beat the shit out of them for life.
So you don't care about the dead troops in Iraq, Zer? Oh, my, that sounds so anti-American. Better change your tune before people think you're a terrorist. ;)
Then again, he strikes me as the type that *would* bomb abortion clinics....
Yup, I care about the soldiers in Iraq and endangered species. I fail to see how this is bad. Also, I do not *like* abortion myself, but it is a choice every woman has to make for herself.
That's because each of the 4000 lost have relatives who feel that loss a lot. The fetus has no emotional contact to anything at the time it is being aborted.
As for butterflies in forests, I think I'd prefer that than the whole place bulldozed for urban development or something.
No, I don't give a rat's ass about them. I don't in the least. Because they're NOT PEOPLE. They're NOT HUMAN BEINGS.
If a woman has a complication-free abortion and doesn't regret it in the least, I'm likely to throw her a Non-Baby Shower. Congratulations! You get to choose what to do with your own body! Break out the champagne.
As has been said, the death of a human being carries far more weight than the abortion of what may have become a human being. A friend of mine had an abortion recently. She's one of those silly people that reasoned she shouldn't have a child simply because she's currently incapable of properly raising one, particularly from a financial standpoint. How absurd is that!? [/sarcasm]
Women identifying themselves as Protestants obtain 37.4% of all abortions in the U.S.; Catholic women account for 31.3%, Jewish women account for 1.3%, and 18% of all abortions are performed on women who identify themselves as "Born-again/Evangelical".
ah, i love statistics =)
For me, at least, that's essentially true. While proper use of birth control could reduce the number of abortions and thus save time, money and effort, I do not mourn for aborted embryos.
Real people (many more than 4000) killed in Iraq do bother me. And, once a species, butterfly or other, is lost, it is lost forever and that is a loss to the whole world and every generation yet to be born.
Concatenating 3 different things, each with a different political and ethical root.
Yes, I support abortion. Yes, I am concerned that there are so many. Yes, I think proper sex ed and guidance in personal development and self-worth are a better way than ranting.
To anyone who is open minded, the examples of Scandinavia and the Netherlands should be reviewed.
Do you mean to tell me that the fiendish Libs care about the 4000 lost in Iraq? How dare they! Don't they support our troops?
Also, if you call liberals Libs, then you surely won't mind when we call you a Con.
Whereas pro-life fanatics couldn't care less about what happens to fetus as soon as s/he's out of the womb.
Sex education, free health care for children, better schools, child care assistance for single mothers, easing up adoption procedures, allowing single people and gay couples to adopt. These things would KILL abortion. But pro-life fanatics don't WANT to kill abortion, they only want to make it illegal and send it to the back alleys again where abortions would continue unseen.
@Freboy
In what way are we handling abortions well?
I'm assuming your from one of the exemplar countries I mentioned.
I was trying to say that the nordic countries deal with sex ed better, allowing young people to understand the implications of unprotected sex, and teaching them properly how to avoid unwanted consequences. Thus abortion is much rarer.
Sorry if I've misconstrued
and conservatives don't care about the children that are born into poverty and unhealthy environments!
What is it with you guys wanting to safe the unborn, but once the kid's in this world it's in god's hands and if it dies now, because of hunger, beatings or abuse, it's what god wanted - maybe god wanted the child not to be born. I mean, he's without fail and his plan is perfect. Maybe he wanted the woman to go through a traumatic experience! Why, I don't know! It's your god! You explain!
Yeah. And they probably don't give a rat's ass about the 1 - 2 million spontaneous abortions that occur each year, either. And how about the billions of skin cells we flush down the shower every day, and the billions more we kill when we brush our teeth? What about the carnage of human tissue sacrificed to aspirin (it dissolves the stomach lining) and the billions of cells, some of them viable eggs, young women cruelly discard every month. Have those libs no heart at all ?
...And fundies care neither about troop casualties nor about the countless embryos that naturally fail to implant every year, but which by their arguments are also human beings.
It seems as if it only counts as a person when it can be used as leverage to control someone else's personal life.
They always trot out this same old argument. Let's see what happens if I switch it around a bit.
The fundies care about the 850,000 aborted fetuses lost every year, but don't give a darn about the 4,000 lost in Iraq or endangered species.
Because those 4,000 troops (and all the other thousands of innocents who have died) were living, breathing human beings.
Because (and I'm assuming you're making reference to deforestation here) if we screw up the environment enough we're all gonna regret it.
Because those "babies" are not babies.
YOU CANNOT ABORT A BABY.
Jeez.
No babies are aborted. Abortions are done on fetuses or embryos. A baby is a newborn human.
Citation needed on that number of abortions.
And, actually, we do care about the rate of abortions. But we want to make the living conditions better for all women around the world, so that they will be able to take care of their offsprings. And we want to make education available everywhere, so that all women know how to NOT get pregnant if they don't want to.
Which 4000 lost in Iraq? Some sources say that over a million people have died violently since the invasion in 2003. Which of those are the 4000 you say the liberals are concerned with?
The Cons care about the aborted fetuses - but don't give a rat's ass about the girls and women who die in childbirth every year. It's not as if females are human, after all.
Cry for a fetus while supporting your government's wars for profit? This is the rankest sentimentality!
Confused?
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