I believe the Rocky Mountain States and Southern States should secede from the Union, thereby establishing a new Nation united by common religion, language, and morals. Furthermore, I favor the Leadership of a Christian Dictator, who would guide society back onto the path of Righteousness. I believe the greatest level of freedom is achieved only when people exercise their freedom for the benefit of the Nation. (Individualism is an evil philosophy).
I hate Marxism, Feminism, and Liberalism. These ideologies must be destroyed. [Smiley]
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Well, so do I. At least, I would like to put all you fundie fuckers somewhere by yourselves. Since I live in the South, if you do make the Southern States a Christian Dictatorship, just give me enough time to get the hell out. While I am an athiest, I don't agree with all liberalism (I'm more libertarian). I certainly couldn't stand living under your idea of government. It's bad enough just living in the midst of the Bible Belt. I am Southern born and bred and love living here as far as region goes. But before I would live under a Christian regime, I would not only leave the South, but the country if need be to escape you. But I would do everything I could to keep this from happening.
"Furthermore, I favor the Leadership of a Christian Dictator, who would guide society back onto the path of Righteousness."
Just give Christians New Mexico, nothin is in there anyways. I hate NM because they wasted $1 at a musilm of a wax body. After a few years the Christians will have developed a stone-age society rules by animal sacerfices and they will the the target of Islamian terrorists, not US.
<<< I believe the greatest level of freedom is achieved only when people exercise their freedom for the benefit of the Nation. >>>1984 , that. Redefining freedom to mean "freedom to do what I say" ... that's Newspeak to a T.
If you were to leave, you know what my answer would be? Good riddance. Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out. (Then again, I'm fortunate enough not to be in the Rockies or the South.)
"I believe the Rocky Mountain States and Southern States should secede from the Union, thereby establishing a new Nation united by common religion, language, and morals." Uh huh. That worked so well in the 1860s, didn't it?
"Furthermore, I favor the Leadership of a Christian Dictator, who would guide society back onto the path of Righteousness."
Yes, a dictator, that's a great idea. A dictatorship would be the best form of government for that especially devout kind of righteousness that involves persecuting and killing all those who disagree with Xianity.
"I believe the greatest level of freedom is achieved only when people exercise their freedom for the benefit of the Nation. (Individualism is an evil philosophy)."
So, a dictatorship is the best form of government for fostering freedom, eh? This must be the Fundie redefinition project in full swing.
"I hate Marxism, Feminism, and Liberalism. These ideologies must be destroyed. [Smiley]"
I guess under the righteous Xian dictator advocates of Marxism, Feminism and Liberalism who have to be killed lest they contaiminate the greater society. We must preserve the body. It's probably OK as long as we do it with a "smiley."
I thought we already had a xtian dictator in America?
I don't think he's a troll. He's quite vocal at these forums, and has over 3,000 posts. He also made the "Educating the Next Generation" post which is a little ways down here on FSTDT.
I believe the Rocky Mountain States and Southern States should secede from the Union, thereby establishing a new Nation united by common religion, language, and morals. that stunt again. Remember what happened the last time you tried to run away and pull a civil war?
Of course, I'll support your right to secede. Take all your little fundie friends, move to some whacko state in the Bibble Belt, and make it your own country. Then, do whatever the hell you want. We'll be taking bets on how long you last before falling apart in a bout of petty infighting over what your magic sky fairy really said.
Furthermore, I favor the Leadership of a Christian Dictator, who would guide society back onto the path of Righteousness.
In short, you want to return to the dark ages. That's what happened the last time there was a Christian dictatorship. Hey, here's an idea we'll just take away your computer, your house, and all your property. Then, we'll stick you in a smelly hovel and force you to perform backbreaking labor as a medieval serf under the watchful eye of a Christian who will be your dictator. You'll enjoy it, I trust.
(Question: Does Nazi Germany count as a Christian dictatorship? It was a dictatorship, and Hitler was a Catholic, but it wasn't run as a theocracy, so it may not count here.)
I believe the greatest level of freedom is achieved only when people exercise their freedom for the benefit of the Nation.
In other words, people are most free when they're forced to obey a dictator.
Actually, this "serve the Nation" idea is a little strange to me. What do they mean by the nebulous concept of "nation?" A country is made up of its inhabitants, and helping them is commendable. However, this nationalistic ideal seems to regard "the nation" as a conscious being itself who can receive assistance and needs or deserves to be "aided."
(Individualism is an evil philosophy).
Uh oh! You've run into a troubling paradox here. See, the majority of Americans believe that individualism is a good thing. In order to say that individualism is a bad thing, you must break free from the crowd and assert your own individuality, making yourself a hypocrite in the process. You can't condemn individuality without using it!
I hate Marxism, Feminism, and Liberalism. These ideologies must be destroyed.
So, you want to destroy the idea that women are people too, that the poor should be taken care of, and that you should have the right to spout this bullshit. You want a Christian dictatorship; how does this comment square with the fact that Jesus was a liberal communist?
Maronan: "In order to say that individualism is a bad thing, you must break free from the crowd and assert your own individuality, making yourself a hypocrite in the process. You can't condemn individuality without using it!"That's an excellent point."
Maronan: "Actually, this "serve the Nation" idea is a little strange to me. What do they mean by the nebulous concept of "nation?" A country is made up of its inhabitants, and helping them is commendable. However, this nationalistic ideal seems to regard "the nation" as a conscious being itself who can receive assistance and needs or deserves to be "aided."nation and country in the above quote with God or Jesus . That's why they like the idea so much, I guess.
what we founded our country on? Fucking sheep.
I hate Marxism, Feminism, and Liberalism. These ideologies must be destroyed.
Scottybelieve they can be served or assisted, though; do they believe a country to be a person too? Or do they simply support this idea because it sounds good and "preps" people for serving their supposed god?
As a Florida Jew, I say "Fuck off, Brent." Hitler already tried that one, and look where it got him.
Hey hey hey! Take Arizona or the Dakotas or something. I'm not giving up Florida without a fight... the fishing's too good, and I hate surfing in a wetsuit.
Question, please. Why so great a distance between the two sites you would have all the fundies congregated in? Because as others have pointed out, theists can't even get along amongst themselves, much less with anyone else. Eventually, this division would lead to conflict, and place a great number of us just minding our own business in the middle.
That does it, moving back to Massachusetts where they have some sense. And beans.
I would advise Mr Burnt.. (sorry, Brent)to look at the movie (or better, the comic/novella) V for Vendetta and see what might happen if his "dream" come true...
Approved. Then the rest of us can get to work making a society without all that nonsense. And five years later, the rebel states will have nuked themselves into oblivion, or just run out of money, and will beg to rejoin.
Good luck with that. You're going to have a bit of a fight on your hands with New Mexico, Arizona, Louisiana, and Florida being decidedly purple and Colorado leaning well into the indigo. (Maybe Wyoming too, but I don't think anyone who doesn't actually live there has spent enough time away from the ski slopes to know anything about what goes on there.)
This is actually a very tempting proposition, except for the fact that they reproduce. At least as as things are now, we have a chance that some of the kids will see the light through exposure to public education and rational society. They at least have a chance to get away from their parents' insanity, which they couldn't if we let them secede. It was a lovely thought for a moment, though. ::sigh::
Lets see implications of Brents hatred:
(No) Individualism- so he wants to be mindless drone.
(No) Marxism- not only drone, but a drone that will work his ass off far beyond human endurance, for a lousy minimal pay and no healthcare.
(No) Feminism- he'll be all that, but the women around him will be even less, since they would have to take care of the house and children, as well as work in factories. They won't have voting abillity, unlike our mindless drone here.
Doesn't sound so good now, Brent?
Yes, yes, Individualism is an evil philosophy, Freedom is Slavery, 2+2=5, haven't we all been over this before?
“I believe the Rocky Mountain States and Southern States should secede from the Union, thereby establishing a new Nation united by common religion,”
“(Individualism is an evil philosophy).”
“I hate Marxism, Feminism, and Liberalism. These ideologies must be destroyed. [Smiley]”
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