A lot of Disney movies are not appropriate for children under the age of 18 and if they are watched by the this group they should have parental guidance. I would rate them R at least. They may not have open sex but they do contain strong direct and indirect influences which are detrimental as applied to sexual behavior and religion.
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Are you out of your mind? Disney is one of the most doctored/censored storytellers out there. Everything is Family Values and Vanilla, and everything has a Happy Ending.
Just look at The Little Mermaid. In the original H.C. Andersen version, the Mermaid dies in the end; she becomes foam on the waves. Disney's version is a leettle more "cute" in the end.
Over here it's rather "Oh no, Disney is making this story into a movie! Then we'll never get the whole story, just some childish For The Whole Family crap".
The day Disney bought Pixar was a day of mourning, almost.
(Btw, our Adults Only limit is at 15 years of age. When you reach 15, you can see whatever you want in Cinemas.)
@Swede
Don't forget that in the original version of Cinderella, the way the prince found out that the stepsisters weren't his beauty was because birds pecked the eyes out of the stepsisters because they cut of their toes to make their feet fit.
Or in another version of the Pied Piper, he leads the children down to the river to drown like the rats he removed, or even a pedophiliac serial killer.
In Snow White, she was raped and woke up to see two children that she'd given birth to.
The original fairy tales are much more violent than the Disney version.
@Fundie
No, Disney would never dream of making fairy tales straight out of Brothers Grim. The most controversial Disney will choose to be is the Pirates of the Caribbean with PG-13.
You don't have to worry about Goofy First Blood: Part II or Micky and Minnie Make a Porno.
@ Swede
"(Btw, our Adults Only limit is at 15 years of age. When you reach 15, you can see whatever you want in Cinemas.) "
Here in Britain things work much the same way. By the time you're 15, you've figured out how to sneak into the 18 movies anyway.
Yeah, like any of that is present in a Disney movie, gah.
Oh yeah, and what the hell is wrong with allusions to sex?!
You're in a fucking death cult! do you honestly consider that which ends life preferable to expose your children to than that which creates life?
Ah, what a backwards mindset.
Yeah, I remember the lesbian scene in Aladdin, the masturbation bit in The Little Mermaid (that was effed up right there) and the bestiality in Beuaty and the Beast.
It's called Parental Bonus, or getting Crap under the Radar.
Yeah, Disney is unsuitable for children... then what the hell can children watch? Tele-tubbies? Oh, I guess you could possibly slip them some Toon Disney access for their sweet 16, but that's pushing it, a task more or less reserved for cool uncles or liberal siblings.
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On the other hand, The Hunchback of Notre Dame had some seriously dark shit in it. Peanuts compared to the original, of course, but that Frollo guy was one depraved mo'fo.
"they do contain strong direct and indirect influences which are detrimental as applied to sexual behavior"
Did you attempt to join some strange cosplay fetish group and were susequently rejected with concomitant frigidity?
Translating from the Fundie, we get: "Hormones, puberty and sexual urges are a wicked lifestyle choice. As long as we don't let our kids know about them, they will stay children.
"Sadly, they seem to grow up anyway, so I'll blame the hidden sexual agenda of atheist society, as depicted in Disney Movies"
"A lot of Disney movies are not appropriate for children under the age of 18"
The MPAA and BBFC* say otherwise
"and if they are watched by the this group they should have parental guidance. I would rate them R at least. They may not have open sex but they do contain strong direct and indirect influences which are detrimental as applied to sexual behavior and religion."
You know nothing . Ever hear of Anime? Two Words: Bible Black.
*- The former director of the British Board of Film Classification James Ferman was once interviewed on BBC's Radio 5, and he stated that if a film was made of the Bible, using the actual text as the screenplay (with no cuts or adapting), then certainly the Old Testament segment would not only not get even an R-18 rating (for the extreme physical & sexual violence), but would probably be seized by the police under the Obscene Publications Act. Oh, the irony.
@#1121644
"@ Swede: "The day Disney bought Pixar was a day of mourning almost"
Well said."
And now Disney own Marvel Comics. I weep.
You gotta be pretty damn prude if you think Disney movies are not OK for kids to see.
Besides, how can any potential applied sexual intercourse be detrimental to sexual behaviour? The aforementioned prudishness does much more damage.
18? Seriously? Well, better not let them watch anything ever. In fact, why not lock them in the basement until they're 21 to make sure that there's no chance of any of those suspicious outsiders tainting them. Be sure to tell them how they've been horrible, too!
This coming from people who think it's A-OK to show torture porn to preschoolers at Easter time.
And yes, by torture porn I DO mean the Passion of the Christ.
If you're talking about the fairy tales, you should read the books they're based on. No 'Disney endings' there.
If you're talking about Miley Cyrus, then yeah she's starting to get into a grey soft porn area. I cringe when I see my niece try and imitate her. Nothing like a 7-year-old trying to pole dance.
How repressed can you get?
@Anon-e-moose : Or "legend of the overfiend" If a fundie saw that thier head would explode.
Or they would spend thier lonely nights fapping to tentacle porn and sobbing.
@ Tykittää
"Fantasia is like an LSD trip so I've been told."
The fuck are those people thinking? Fantasia is akin to an acid trip in the same sense that a blow job is like having a grizzly bear rip off your penis.
I watched a movie the other day, that I tipped my brother about. But I warned him to watch it first, before showing it to his kids.
What was it, again? I can't remember; too much red red wine, perhaps.
Oh! It was "Where the Wild Things Are". I think that parents know best what their kids can understand and enjoy. If they can't enjoy it, it's no point showing it to them.
@They Call Me V
"Yeah, Disney is unsuitable for children... then what the hell can children watch? Tele-tubbies?"
Not even dude. One of them has a purse, which therefore... makes him gay. :p
Personally, I just wish they'd get back to their shacks in the woods and stay off the internet - because it's wicked and sinful, jez like the babble said.
So what ISN'T evil to the fundies? Next you know, kittens are gonna be evil.
They aren't!?!
During the "Dark Ages" (the time that the Catholic Church had virtually complete control over Europe) cats were widely believed to be carriers of plague. To this day people believe that cats can somehow "suck the soul" out of infants in thier cribs.
@TheyCallMeV: I agree with you that Frollo is a depraved mofo, but then, Disney villains have always been as creepy as the G rating allows. Which if we consider that Disney villains have included a genocidal pervert, a giant octopus drag queen who ruled the ocean (which, if you think about it, meant she ruled MOST OF EARTH ITSELF), a sadistic megalomaniac who might as well have said he wanted to overthrow God, a female high-ranking demon, and something that's either a male high-ranking demon or IS ACTUALLY SATAN, that G rating allows for quite a bit of creepiness.
But I shouldn't be giving the fundies ammunition here. *waves snake staff in fundie faces* Disney is all sunshine and puppydogs...oh, and rainbows. But not the gay kind.
Man, I need to work on this hypnosis stuff.
(Oh and if you're having trouble identifying the villains, they're in order Frollo, Ursula, Jafar, Maleficent and Chernobog. I could have included "a mad voodoo priest who uses blood rituals and wants to sacrifice an entire city" but my sentence was already a run-on of epic proportion.)
@They Call Me V
"Yeah, Disney is unsuitable for children... then what the hell can children watch? Tele-tubbies?"
Tele-tubbies would DEFINATELY not be an option....Remember the whole "Purple Tele-tubbie=pushing homosexual agenda"?
@Rumpshaker slim
"How repressed can you get?
Or they would spend thier lonely nights fapping to tentacle porn and sobbing."
@Old Viking
"I remember that scene with Mickey and Minnie in the barn ..."
OtherSideOfTheBoat (& everyone else on Rupture Retards) have clearly never heard of Rule 34.
@Kevin Klawitter
"Tyler
So what ISN'T evil to the fundies? Next you know, kittens are gonna be evil.
They aren't!?!"
In anime/manga (& related art), catgirls are usually portrayed as cute/sexy. There are the exceptions. The Lieze Twins Lotte & Aria in "Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha A's" (helping the enemy), and currently in "Kiddy Girl-and", Rubis the werecatgirl:
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She (& her 'Mr. Freeze'-esque partner Saphir) works for the evil G-Society, who oppose the GTO.
There were the Puma Twins, Anna & Uni in Masamune Shirow's "Dominion: Tank Police" (and the anime based on such), but they eventually turned good and joined said Tank Police (looking hot in their uniforms too!).
Re: Anon-e- moose's & Rumpshaker Slim's post
Of course, there is a certain sequence involving the Puma twins, and some odd octogonal plates of memory plastic, in Dominion Tank Police, which when used to delay the Tank Police, would have the average fundie in palpitations, when the plates reveal their "true shape"...
*sigh* this really really makes me want to cry...
You'd think that followers of someone who often imparted valuable life lessons via the medium of metaphorical stories might understand that not all stories should be taken at face value,
I just don't understand their lack of basic thought.
Citation needed.
If you're talking about the "SEX" in the dust in "The Lion King", that actually said "SFX" (which stands for "special effects"), and was nothing more than a harmless joke. And if you're talking about the pillar on the Atlantica castle in "The Little Mermaid" that looks like a penis, that was just a mistake. They were tired and didn't mean to make it look like a penis.
Believe it or not, Disney actually tones down a lot of the violent/sexual elements present in the original fairytales. On the other hand, they also introduce very black/white characters who are either totally good or pure evil. For example, in the original "The Little Mermaid", the Sea Witch was not evil. The Little Mermaid (all the characters in the original were nameless) simply asked to be able to become human, and the Sea Witch had to ask for a price in order to do this. It wasn't because she was evil; it was simply the requirement. It's like Yuuko Ichihara in "Tsubasa: Reservoir Chronicle": She has to ask for often-hefty prices in order to give people what they want, but that's not her fault, that's just how it works. She simply can't help anyone if they can't pay the price. She doesn't have any ulterior motives or evil plans. And neither did the Sea Witch; she simply did what had to be done in order for the Little Mermaid to become a human (i.e. her voice was destroyed, and she would be a beautiful dancer, but her feet would feel like they were being stabbed).
Anyway, sorry for that aside there, I just don't like how Disney never allows for moral ambiguity. Their takes on fairytales are so black/white that I have to question their maturity. This is why I love Hayao Miyazaki his characters act like REAL PEOPLE and aren't 1-dimensional.
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