I've never seen a snuff movie, but from what I understand they are the result of a progressive appetite of porn. ie. soft porn, hard porn, bondage, rape, s&m, etc. My husband, who openly professes that porn was his greatest addiction, expalined it to me once.
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As youths all serial murderers ate bread. Later they consumed carrots. No, really, actual carrots. Then they rode in a car. Therefore, bread, carrots and cars lead to serial murder. I know I'm teetering on the edge as I now have carrots 3 times a week and I've already ridden in a car. Be careful this doesn't happen to you.
"My husband, who openly professes that porn was his greatest addiction, expalined it to me once."
I somehow doubt he's qualified to speak of the psychology involved in anything, let alone this subject.
I'm sure I've heard of studies done that contradict her husbands conclusion, though I'm too lazy to look'em up.
Really, porn just doesn't seem all that attractive or meaningful to me anymore. I don't seek it out nearly as much as I did in my early teens, and I didn't "find Jay-suhs" or any other such thing. I just got a partner.
To put it succinctly, porn does not lead inexorably towards snuff films. In fact, there are not all that many kinks that lead one to those films more than once.
Hooray for people who don't understand sexuality!
The gullibility bar just keeps getting lower.
First is the concept of a "progressive appetite" for porn. Peoples sexual tastes rarely change after puberty, and if they do it probably won't be in such regulated progression. Bondage is not the logical progression from hard porn, it's just a specific subcategory. It might be something like soft porn, hard porn, gay porn or multiracial plot specific porn or foot fetish.
While there is actual footage availible of people dying or being murdered there is no verifiable report of anyone being murdered explicitly to produce a film meant for black market distribution.
The FBI spent several years and several million dollars trying to find snuff film. Their final report: they got nothin'.
Pornography mogul Al Goldstein once offered $1,000,000 to the first person who could hand him a truly-truth snuff film. He never cut that check.
Making a snuff film consists of three highly contrary acts.
1) Murdering someone.
2) Recording all the evidence anyone could ever need to convict you.
3) Copying and distributing this evidence through a network of lowlifes who would sell you out in a blink to shave some time off their jail sentences.
All for some fetish that hardly has a market at all, and which can easily be placated through simulated homocide anyhow.
Now, the real illegal film industry, child abuse has a healthy (so to speak) enough market to support some level of child pornography production. This is partly due to the fact that with a few special effects you can fake murder, with acting you can fake rape but fake 12 year olds don't grow on trees. The number of people who kill just to get their jollies is tiny, while the number of pedophiles and child molesters in the world is depressingly high.
In summary: While the concept of a snuff film is not outside the realm of possibility all evidence indicates it's just a movie plot, tabloid gaff or urban legend.
Oh Oh Oh, I know this one! the vast majority of snuff films are not pornographic, and are most often accidents caught on tape. However, actual snuff films are rare, and are the extreme on the pornographic landscape.
Elegant, thorough, and cogent rebuttal, Zipperback. It says all that needs to be said. Now if we could just expect fundies to consider the possibility that this is true; sadly, their gullibility tends to run in only one direction -- toward the lurid, no matter how nonsensical it might be.
~David D.G.
Never seen a snuff film? Those are the ones that consist of nothing but a person being murdered, right? A person is killed by other people, and the death may be dragged out for hours?
*coughpassioncough*
Everything's an addiction these days: shopping, porn, video games, disgusting American chocolate. My heart is bleeding, really bleeding. More likely her worthless shit of a husband lived a mediocre life prior to being "saved", and when he found Jesus he saw that his $6/h job hadn't gotten better, his 400lb wife was still a whale, his ex was still doggedly pursuing a $6000 child support debt and the future looked to be the same, or worse. So, determined to maintain his faith in the Jeebus he looks to his past, looks for "sinful" actions, declares one of them an addiction and hey, presto! life has been turned around by the power of the Church. Amen and have a hot dog!
Why the hell would this slack jawed yokel whose porn experiences had probably been limited to typing "sex" into the search engine and jacking off to spyware ridden freebies or paysite previews be qualified to analyse and discuss the intricacies of the porn industry? I bet julie submits to this dumbshit's authority too.
It's true, it's true! I started looking at porn, and soon the ordinary stuff wasn't enough for me, and I got hooked on harder and harder material, until in the end I could only get wood by looking at pictures of completely naked women!
"I've never seen a snuff movie, but from what I understand they are the result of a progressive appetite of porn"
False. The snuff movie is, by definition, done for the financial benefits of finding an individual, having sex with them, killing them, all while on tape, and then selling said tape for a profit.
Of course, since the FBI has never come across a real snuff tape, that is to say, a tape with the features above, I highly doubt your husband has one.
Unless he is a sexual deviant murderer.
Snuff movies are torture movies, sick rape fantasies maybe but not mainline porn.
Sick people may start out with regular porn but their looking for torture shit right from the begining.
And as Anon mentioned, Passion Of The Christ is a torture flick and it ends in death, snuff film, nuff said. If you want a cause and effect senario what the fuck are we in for from the kids dragged to that horror show with the DVD being watched every Easter at home?
I'm serious, get a fucking clue people.
Confused?
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