Remo #fundie

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I have a question: why is rape even considered a serious crime anymore? Back before our modern enlightend era where female virginity was a pre-req for marriage and without this she's a spinster okay rape is pretty bad. You've just doomed someone to a life without a husband in a harsh world where a man is needed to help her to survive. She won't marry, have children, or raise a family because she's damaged goods.

Now however if a girl doesn't get her cherry popped by thirteen Oprah considers her abnormal and in need of therapy and a good gang bang. Any man who wants a virgin for a wife better call up Boko Haram and see if any are still for sale - you won't find any in the U.S. of A... By the time the average girl hits college she's had more experience than a full time brothel worker. So what's the big deal? Is theft of sex (which is what rape is) so horrible if she's given it away hundreds of times to guys she hardly knows? How much sympathy, honestly, do you feel for a prostitute who is raped but otherwise not physically injured? How is that different from a guy slipping out without paying? Here the girls are giving it away by the bucketfull but we are supposed to be sad and go in hysterics because one guy kept going when he should have known she'd change her mind while thinking about it in Starbucks the next day?

I assume any woman troll on here is going to open up the comment by saying something like: "WOW just WOW OMG I can't believe I am reading this!?! How can you say that???!!!!" then proceed to NOT answer my question. Why is theft of sex in an environment where it is so cheap as to be worth nothing even considered a crime?

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old comment by Swede

Men and boys are raped too, ya know. Rape is a serious crime because it's a violation of a person's human rights.

How much experience has the average boy had when he hits college? The average girl doesn't get that "experience" without someone to experience it with, silly. Aren't the boys giving it away by the bucketful too? Sex from boys is even cheaper, as they are often begging the girls to give in. The average person has had about 4-5 partners, women say they have had about 4-5, but men say they have had 8-9 partners. Who’s the cheap, slutty ones?

A rape often cause physical injuries, not to mention the psychological scars that seldom heal completely.

Slipping out without paying IS theft of sex, asshole, as is pretending to like a girl in order to get her into bed, and then never calling back. Rape is lack of consent, it's assault, abuse, torture.

Rape is an extremely underreported crime, asshole! Most never go to the police, as the interrogations and examinations feel like a second assault, and very few rapes that are reported go to trial and conviction.

Oh, we know why you are saying this; you’re a sociopathic asshole. The answer is that rape is NOT theft of sex, it's lack of consent, it's assault, abuse, torture.

old comment by Anon-e-moose

"I have a question: why is rape even considered a serious crime anymore?"

And I have the perfect answer to that: if it isn't a 'serious crime' as per your own thinking, (R)Emo, just attack any passing woman outside your local police station.

I assume you're not going to test that hypothetical scenario. And I know you're not, nor will you ever, (R)Emo. If you assume that Rape isn't 'a serious crime', then what's stopping you from doing the above? Or is it that you don't need to assume that you'll end up not assuming that the same will happen to you as the ultimate result of your 'assuming' it isn't what you think it is; and you know what is the national sport in US prisons, do you not...?! According to the 'Prison Code', rape - especially inflicted on those convicted of such a crime in prison - is the least of your problems.

You don't even need to ask the question, to know the answer. Capisce?

old comment by Kat S.

There is so much fail in these statements. I will start from top to bottom on where this guy is horrendously wrong.

Rape is considered a bad and violent crime since it invades and violates someone in the most personal way, and often rapes are performed along with battery of the victim. Virginity was used as a bargaining chip in marriage to a young woman, and women had little say what they could do for themselves. Spinster was(and maybe still is) a term used to describe a woman in her mid 30s or older who was never married and not any woman who already had sex. Those last two statements in your first paragraph were some of the main reasons the second wave feminism movement occurred.

The second paragraph written is horrible. Oprah herself was a victim of sexual abuse as a child, she would never say anything like that. The whole "call up Boko Haram" is not funny. Child brides are terrible and must be stopped, not endorsed by idiots like you. What you have to understand is that all the pretty girls you want to bone have a right to tell you "no." No means no means no. Rape isn't really about sex, it's actually about controlling and humiliating the victim.

I'll answer your question. A woman has a right to say "no". Even if it's at the last minute. You can't violate her space and body because you want her for sex.

old comment by Blueinkedfrost

We have great medical care today. Why is violence against men even considered a serious crime anymore? We don't live in a harsh world where you need to be uninjured to survive. Instead, men can fix themselves up easily. Men seem to like to commit a lot of violence against other men, so it would be beneficial to allow them to give into their instincts. Violence against men is AOK if they can be patched up afterward.

The above paragraph is very much intended as sarcasm. I didn't enjoy typing that. Violence, including sexual violence, against men or women is wrong. Justice for acts of violence shouldn't discriminate based on perpetrator or victim gender.

old comment by Cloning Blues

You know, I too would have trouble conjuring up emotional sympathy for a prostitute who got raped. It just isn't how my mind works. And yet despite that, I would still know, on an intellectual level, that what happened to her was wrong, and that the person who did it should be punished. That's the thing that guys like this never get--just because you dislike someone doesn't mean bad things happening to them is okay.

As for all the rest of it, it's absolute bullshit. Most women aren't having more sex than brothel workers, and the number who've screwed by thirteen is pretty minor (thank God. Consent laws are there for a reason). Just another whiny MRA upset that he's not getting any.

old comment by mrjuju

*Grabs a broom handle*

Let's see how serious you consider it...

Edit:

You know actually, this reminds me of a story from the wondrous world of pro wrestling. There was this young up and comer, one of those select few that had it all, the look, the talent, the skill on the mic, he was destined to be someone big in the business. Or he would have been, if it wasn't for his penchant for grabbing underage, or borderline aged girls and raping them in his hotel room. So word gets out to the locker room, and one wrestler, JBL in case you follow wrestling, decides that something needs to get done. One day, after a house show, he corners the guy in the shower, ties him to the towel rack, and starts talking up what he is going to do. Some versions of the story go so far as to have him soaping up the youngsters back door, some don't, who knows where it went; end result was a wrestler who ran the hell out of the business, and, hopefully learned a lesson.

old comment by Passerby

Let me explain this with an analogy:

You own your own home. It is indisputably yours and nobody else's. Everything in it and everything about it is deeply personal to you. You decide who enters, you decide when they leave, and you decide what they can and cannot touch before you throw them out. You might brag about your sporting trophies and show them off at every opportunity, but damned if you'll let somebody touch them who doesn't respect them. You decide when somebody crashes on your couch, and you decide when they've overstayed their welcome. You may feel certain obligations as a host just as you expect certain things from a guest but ultimately your home is your castle and you reign supreme over it's affairs.

Does this all sound reasonable to you? Something you agree with?

Now imagine you wake up to find somebody in your house. They haven't taken anything, nothing's broken, but they insist on pawing their greasy hands over everything you hold valuable. They might not be violent, overly hostile, or even particularly rude but they are nonetheless in your house without your permission and don't much care for anything you tell them making lame justifications about how you invite people into your house all the time so there's no reason to be mad they let themselves in. They might argue that you shouldn't be so defensive about the things in your house since they're all on display, in grabbing reach of any guest whether it's the fridge or the urn containing your grandparent's ashes. They might argue that you're friends and any good friend would give up their couch without hesitation so it shouldn't matter that they never asked. They might argue that asking them to leave makes you a terrible host so they have no reason to be a gracious guest. They might even have the gall to act offended themselves because you "owe" them for a time they gave you fifty bucks and shouldn't complain how they want that paid back. No matter what they refuse to leave when you tell them to. They're not doing anything in particular, but they aren't leaving

Answer me honestly, would you let that slide? Would you even let somebody do to that to your neighbour without telling somebody off?

Well, your body is a whole lot more sacred than your house. If you'd show someone the door for tracking in mud and giving you lip, get angry that somebody's passed out in a pool of vomit on the floor of your mysteriously trashed kitchen when you're too hung over to remember inviting them over for drinks last night and were too wasted to show them out before your own whiskey induced coma, or give someone the business end of a boomstick for being in your living room unannounced at midnight, what do you think is an appropriate response for someone trying to fumble through your other back door and acting like you're the jerkwad for having a problem with it?

I don't care if you're a man, woman, sex symbol or the effin Pope. You disrespect me and my home that way you get run off at the tip of something sharp. You disrespect my body so grossly? You get run through with something dull instead. I don't imagine women would feel much different.

(Yes, I know this analogy does not capture the horror fully. Nothing does. But I'm explaining things to "people" that view material goods as having more rights and being more deserving of respect than people.)