[Replying to 'we know that John is reliable because Christ says so, and we know that Christ tells us so because John is reliable?']Boy Martin, I sure am going to pray for you sir. Mocking the Lord this way. What a shame. When He tells you to depart from Him, you wont be mocking at all. More like weeping and gnashing of teeth... because of your mocking, God hardens your heart. With the attitude you have shown here tonight, He will hide the truth from you until the day you stand face to face with Him.
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So...when presented with a blatant lack of logic, God...
a.) Immediately clears up the discrepency.
b.) Guides the next round of translators so as to make it that his infallible word is righted, or
c.) Hardens the unbeliever's heart so He can condemn him, guilt free.
Of course I mock your god. I mock him, I mock you, and I will still be doing that when I die. If he exists and condemns me to hell because I don't worship him, then I will laugh at his fragile ego and petty desire for adulation.
Even the monstrous totalitarian state of George Orwell's 1984 doesn't hold a candle to your fucked up imaginary god. Should anyone question his existence, instead of providing any evidence for himself, he just makes it even harder to have any substantial reason to believe in him. Only after you're dead will he reveal himself to tell you it's too late to redeem yourself, and that you fully and absolutely deserve eternal torment for questioning the old Greek guy in a toga. And that's supposedly his "perfect love" and "perfect justice" because of the a priori position that his infallible, even when he completely fucks up his own universe all by himself. I mean, this god even puts the Great Leader Kim Il Sung to shame with his outright narcissism, psychopathy, and irrationality. So what does that say about a sycophantic devotee such as yourself, r8ermang???
...because of your mocking, God hardens your heart.
And to go back to the beginning...
He doesn't believe because his heart is hardened.
His heart is hardened because he doesn't believe.
The God of Circles strikes again.
"He will hide the truth from you until the day you stand face to face with Him."
That's right, he's gonna getcha - but only after you die. It's the ultimate copout, because there's no way to come back and tell these fundies they're full of shit if it turns out they're wrong.
But seeing how they go for this sort of illogic like junkies to heroin... hey r8ermang, I got a chain letter here, and you need to pass it on to 10,000 people or else something utterly horrible will happen to you - but only after you die. It's true, I read it in a book which is true because it says it's true. So I guess you best be getting to work passing along them chain letters, buddy.
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'And if there were a God, I think it very unlikely that he would have such an uneasy vanity as to be offended by those who doubt his existence.'
-Bertrand Russell
Wow. Some 'omnipotent' God he is, if he's membrane-skinned, and can't take a few slings & arrows of outrageous fortune, and has to rely on your skirt to hide behind, if you have to stick up for him?!
Awwwww, dere dere Goddy-woddy. Here's a lollipop. Now you go sit in a corner and rock back & forth, dribbling & whimpering incoherently; the nasty Atheists will soon go away...!
Seems it's not only our modern-day Iron Chariots (Judges 1:19, and all that jazz)...:
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...that he's scared of. Inferior to we Atheists much, God?
The Creation is now superior to the Creator. Deal. With . It.
This is just repulsive, r8ermang. You're making the claim that your opponent will be condemned to unending torture for their choices, and you're positively GUSHING about how much pain they will experience. Implying that God deliberately hides evidence of his existence from those who question him is pretty f*****-up as well, but the monstrous glee you show at the thought of others' suffering makes it pretty clear that you aren't following any deity other than your own bloated ego, and if your savior himself came back to set the record straight, you and your ilk would be howling for his blood as soon as he said something that didn't perfectly jive with your own petty, self-centered, childish, and painfully bigoted interpretation of a book which, even if Jesus was indeed the Anointed One, was written based on secondhand accounts of the man and subsequently re-written by hundreds of different people, each with their own agendas and beliefs.
You wallow in the worst of human nature even as you proclaim from the hilltops how holy and enlightened you are, hoping that if you shout it loudly enough then it will become true. If anyone doesn't tolerate - nay, SUPPORT! - your hateful behavior, then you just brush them off as being gay commie fascist Satanists, so that you never, ever have to experience even a moment of self-doubt or discomfort.
After all, r8ermang, it's so much easier to assume that everyone else is evil than actually put your money where your mouth is and live up to the whole "peace and brotherhood" thing, isn't it. Better to just keep gloating about how others deserve endless torment and stare at the Cross - eyes glazed, fingers callused and slick with blood thoughtlessly spilled, your heart a shriveled little raisin in your chest, whispering curses and profanity out of one side of your mouth while you murmur empty praise to the Almighty from the other.
If Yeshuah bin Miriam could see what you do in his name, he'd be horrified, you vicious, spiteful, vile little ghoul. You are ugly, inside and out.
"Boy Martin, I sure am going to pray for you sir.”
Don’t threaten me.
“Mocking the Lord this way.”
No one’s mocking the Lord. It’s mocking the blind faith in the lord at the cost of all logic.
“What a shame.”
You’re using circular logic and looking down YOUR nose at someone who caught it? Fuck your shame.
“When He tells you to depart from Him, you wont be mocking at all.”
If there is a god and he sends me to hell for having an opinion, I’m mocking his ass all the way down.
"More like weeping and gnashing of teeth...”
That’s biblical. I already rejected the Bible as being trustworthy.
"because of your mocking, God hardens your heart”
That’s worth a bit more mocking, then. God’s got a thin skin.
" With the attitude you have shown here tonight, He will hide the truth from you until the day you stand face to face with Him.”
God’s a bit of a dick, what?
Confused?
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