[How are nations to know what wars are just and what wars are unjust?]
Self defense, including the defense of a nation, is a legitimate cause.
That is the justification for the war we are currently in.
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So, because we were attacked on 9/11, we are at war in Iraq, a nation that had nothing to do with that attack, and you think that constitutes self-defense? You're an idiot.
A 'pre-emptive strike' (I think that's what Bush and Blair called it) does not equal self-defense. Hell, I supported the war at first because Saddam Hussein was a dickhead, but their real motives were clear: oil. As evidenced by the fact that Kim Jong Il, Robert Mugabe and various other dicks are still in power.
Not fundie, just neo-con propaganda. True, and there's enough material out there for a "Neocons Say the Darndest Things."
Try to keep up, Mr Randy; "self defence" was the official line cited as the reason to invade first (and that's a damn stretch in my book anyway) only when your people were able to bullshit the world into a mania about weapons of mass destruction; now that Iraq has been invaded and there is not a fucking shred of evidence for the promised masses of terrifying weapons, it is now more obvious than ever that Iraq never posed a threat to America (The only Americans anywhere that are, or ever were, in any danger from Iraq are the ones currently occupying the country). The new party-line, which they're now acting as if they had said all along, is that it was to remove a tyrannical dictator and free the Iraqi people, as if this makes it somehow OK the war was started on false pretenses.
If it has actually done Iraq some good, then that is something to salvage from the current mess, but it wasn't the reason war was declared and therefore, it still should not have happened. I'd venture to suggest that America would never have allowed the war had "freeing Iraqis" been the reason given at the outset, and that is why it s not a valid excuse now.
Brain_iaj, methinks that even if Iraq was no military threat to the US (or any other country not in the middle east), it is easy for those twats to construct a cause of self-defense, by declaring the possible threat to Israel a need to intervene, or the Iraqi hold of oil a threat to economy and so on.
I know this is bullshit, but I think thats the way Bro.Randy ticks. I mean, consider his "legal" threat to Yahweh. He sees enemys everywhere.
"When did Iraq attack us Bro?"
"9-11."
"No that was al-Queda, who have no connections to Iraq or Saddam Hussien."
"Yeah, but Saddam Hussien had those WMD's."
"That no one could find."
"You're right and you have shown me for the hypocrit and asshat that I am. I will now willingly join your war protests and learn to love my fellow man, as my Lord Jesus commands of us."
"Very good, here's your picket fence."
This is how an actual converstation would go with him. Except for that last part.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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